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| sinistermoon | Aug 7 2009, 06:51 AM Post #1 |
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Ok so I have noticed ever since Pete was asked about the whole ComicalDisaster getting to 500 subs before SplatterTrigger thing, people have found it in their better interest to dis on ComicalDisaster. Yeah I understand that her videos were not all that great as far as editing/production value went. But the content was for sure there. I enjoyed her videos and so did many other people. And I think it is total fail that people would say that she got her subs just because she has tits. After watching Comebackkid's video I honestly felt like he made the video just because of what Pete said. And after watching Tatsplat's video I could for sure see that this whole thing appears to be a direct cause of what Pete said. I even saw the clip on justintv by it self. I mean what is the deal? I thought we were all on the same team here? I thought we are all apart of the youtube gaming community? When you really look at the big picture there is plenty of people that don't have many subs and put A LOT into their videos. I am one of those people. Do you really think it is right that SplatterTrigger has more subs then me? I mean yeah he is a cool dude and all but all I am seeing on his channel is him showing games that he bought. And when I go to Pete's channel I see the biggest collection of games on youtube. So instead of tits, maybe we should say games = subs. Because if you think about it that would also make sense. Pete has like 12,000 subs and has a huge game collection. I am pretty sure if Pete had a set of tits he could take over youtube lol. What about the people that not only take the time to beat the game before reviewing, but also capture footage, write and record commentary, edit with professional editing software and make HD quality reviews that take over 3 hours to export alone. Minus beating the game, one of my standard game reviews takes anywhere from 8-25 hours to make. But yet here are these other people that simply show games they bought on ebay and get all kinds of subs! And they don't even have tits! Can you see how it is unfair to compare different styles of videos now? So I can only hope that the next time you see someone spamming a girl that got her account hacked that you tell those people to back off and to grow up. Because the game reviewers that take WAY more time to make their videos are pretty upset that the collectors would even act that immature in the first place. If people like Whitey the reviewer and myself did not think that ComicalDisaster's videos were any good then we would have never gave her shout-outs or replied to her videos. Whitey has over 10,000 subs so when a person with that many subs gives 2 shout outs to the same person then they are bound to get some subs. And that is regardless of if they have tits or not. So yeah, tits do = subs. We all know that. I just don't think it is fair to talk about ComicalDisaster in regards to tits. I mean, what about UltraNeko? She got her subs from her tits but yet no one is hacking her account or talking shit? And I worked with her first hand and KNOW she is an actor. So posers with tits are ok but someone like ComicalDisaster that showed her collection and talked about a few games on cam is not ok just because she got a few more subs quicker than a guy that buys games on eBay? I like and sub to you all, even if you don't sub to me. I give all of your videos the 5 star treatment. Some of you don't sub to me or have ever even watched one of my videos. But that is ok with me. Because I am not so hard up for subs that I would get on video and shit talk anyone. I am just asking that you all take a deep breath, step back and thinking about things a little more before speaking/acting. Be a supporter not a hater. |
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| SplatterTrigger | Aug 7 2009, 07:33 AM Post #2 |
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Not bad at all.I actually sub Comical Disaster and apparently was used as the example here,which i don't mind.To be quite honest I had no idea who everyone was referring to until I read the comments on KBK's vid.I actually didn't even join the forum until about 1 week ago.As for other YT gamers reviewers and such I have to agree with you there.An example would be ZeigiestReviewer(i hoped i spelled that right).I sub him and he puts out excellent quality HD vids that I'm sure take his time but he doesn't have the support that he deserves imo.He's one of the reasons I'm taking my channel in a new direction.Yes most of my vids are collections or what I bought.Though I enjoy showing them right now with the equipment that I have it's all that I can do.But that will change.I've bought editing software,a new laptop,dazzle and a HD camera.Mostly b/c YT has become such an incredible hobby for me and I want to bring better quality to everyone.There are many YT's that bring an excellent feel to this community.Whether through hours of editing or a quick 1 shot take.Granted though many may be missed as well.And that's a shame. As for tits=subs well this is our society.Look at it from a non gender angle.You have 2 FEMALE singers.1 is extremely attractive but has no voice.1 is unattractive but has an amazing voice.They both get a record deal.Who takes off?????It's a no brainer.The attractive one will have both males and females buying her albums up. And yes we all should be supporting one another.This community as a whole is amazing.Granted you have some rotten eggs but the good ones out weigh the bad ones. |
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| browland1 | Aug 7 2009, 11:18 AM Post #3 |
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I have been reading over all of the comments on this whole "tits = subs" debate, and admittedly I am a newcomer to the gaming community. I do not have a Youtube channel yet, however I certainly plan to start one up at some point. Hopefully I can produce videos that will be of interest to someone out there, and it will cover all aspects of my interests; music, movies and video games. But from an objective standpoint, I subscribe to Youtubers who produce videos that interest me. Production value comes second to content, and I feel that users like PeteDorr, SplatterTrigger, StephsTooDef, xTatSplatx, lukemorse1, and others have the personality and knowledge to keep me interested. I don't mind if all of their videos are just talking heads, showing off recent purchases and their game collections. I find that stuff fascinating and I often make notes on which games I should check out. Because of Pete's videos, I bought "Klonoa" and "Beautiful Katamari". Because of TatSplat (at least I think it was her ), I bought "Call of Cthulu" on Xbox. Gameplay footage, fancy titles, and music is nice, but the personality and the ability to speak intelligently wins over all of that. I would not subscribe to someone just because they have a nice set of tits, much less spam someone or make idiotic comments on their videos. That's like those ass-hats who leave "nerd" and "get a life" comments on some of Pete's videos. Sadly, as is often the case, subscriptions on Youtube can be nothing more than a popularity contest, so a vlogger with big tits and absolutely no substance can get way more subscriptions than a smart, yet tit-less, vlogger. Not much you can do about that, except not contribute to the problem. |
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| AlexDemoted | Aug 7 2009, 06:34 PM Post #4 |
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Wow. All these posts are very well written but you're right SinisterMoon...... We're all on the same damn team. Amen
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| Nathan | Aug 7 2009, 08:22 PM Post #5 |
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Trust me the thing is not around at all what Pete said. It started before that. If you have been in the chat you would've known Actually there the ones that brought it more to Pete's attention, But all your points are very well written so I can see where your coming from. Edited by Nathan, Aug 7 2009, 08:28 PM.
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| sinistermoon | Aug 7 2009, 08:40 PM Post #6 |
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Yeah I had a feeling it was something like that since after all, Pete was answering a question. And the response he gave appeared to be more joking like he wanted to get to the next question if anything. This is his forum I am sure he can post a reply if he really wants to. But regardless of who started what, we should all be on the same team and that is the bottom line. Even if it is not helping each other directly. As in if you are not going to say something nice then don't say anything at all(unless you just want to be mean then I guess you are on your own lol). I hope Pete does read my comments though since I mess with him a lot lol. Hey Pete, nice stuffed animals buddy lol. I enjoy those as much as Tatspat grabbing her fun bags lol. See there is having fun with each other then there is just talking shit. The line between the 2 has to be pretty clear since we all don't really really know each other. And when putting stuff like that in a video a person has to be very careful that there is nothing else there that can be misconstrued due to the lack of information. Whatever was said in the chat and by whom was most obviously carried on into their videos. And that leaves other people to wonder what the full deal is. After contacting ComicalDisaster, I know that she never talked any shit. Or at least that is what I believe based upon the information I was given. So how people decided to compare her to SplatterTrigger is beyond me. But it would for sure be interesting to hear about. Some one get comebackkid and tatsplat in here! |
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| XxKomebackKidxX | Aug 8 2009, 12:48 AM Post #7 |
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Ok just to clear some things up. First off it was me who asked the question to pete in his live stream about what he thinks about CD getting to 500 subs before splatter. This was kinda the precurser to my rant. Pete said what he felt was true. Also all the regulars in chat had been aware of CD's vids and such and were surprised by her outstanding sub count. They had all thought it was an unjustice that guys like splatter and zeitgiest didnt have the sub numbers she did. I thought i pretty much said in my vid that i wasnt gonna talk bad about anyone and even gave 5 girls shoutouts. The title rant usually means you are voicing your opinion on something. This is what i did and it was totally my own opinion. I honestly dont think voicing my opinion makes me immature, shit talking, or spamming CD. As for you, you seem to be the one shit talking me for voicing my opinion about something. I agree we all should be on the same team and im totally for that but that doesnt mean we should all be like "hey your videos are all 5 stars we should all have 1000 subs". No. Im not gonna do that im sorry.
Edited by XxKomebackKidxX, Aug 8 2009, 12:55 AM.
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| sinistermoon | Aug 8 2009, 05:57 AM Post #8 |
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And that is all fine and dandy like sour candy man. You can of course have your opinion on whatever you want. And I agreed with somethings in your video and appreciated your straight forward honesty. But I just think comparing ComicalDisaster to someone like SplatterTrigger is fail. You made it more about the gender of the people by going further into what Pete said with the whole tits = subs thing. I don't see how you can support Tatsplat having as many subs as she does lol. It seems highly hypocritical of you. I mean I have seen Tat grab her tits a couple of times in her videos, she admits she has less of a game collection now since her and boyfriend broke up(which most likely means it wasn't hers in the first place)she has not great but decent video quality and most of her videos appear to be done in one shot. No spectacular editing or hardcore amounts of time put into them. But yet you support and shout out her? See how that does not add up? And from that I already want to start comparing Tat to Steph2def and the other girls you shouted out. But I don't think that is fair. Why is that not fair? Well some of those women capture game footage and put lots more into their videos than Tat. But I happen to think Tat is cool. She seems like a nice person with good intentions(like the blockbuster sale video). So why would I want to hurt her feelings? Of course from your point of view it would have seemed like you are being nice by putting her in there with other video game women. But it STILL does not dismiss the fact that it was hypocritical of you to talk about CD the way you did and still support others that are putting less effort into their videos lol. You can point the finger at me all you want saying I am shit talking you man but I really am not. I am coming in here and telling it like it is based upon the videos you all have put out. I have them all on my hard drive since I was going to make a video response. But I decided I didn't want to make myself apart of any youtube drama on youtube. I have rated all of your videos 5 stars. You don't even have HD video, capture game footage, your top 25 video is clearly emulator footage captured with an unregistered version of Hypercam 2 and the vast majority of your videos, as in all of them are just you holding up things you have bought. But you know what? I gave you 5 stars on all of them. I didn't comment on all of them because I comment on so many videos that I don't want to sound the same in every comment section. I mean think about it, when it comes to collection videos were a person is only showing 1 or 5 games they got there is only so many comments a person can make really. For example, Oh hey you got ____ I love that game! Awesome price on it! See what I mean? But still, regardless of that I still support you the best I can. Are all your videos 5 star videos when comparing them to AVGN's videos or someone like that? NO, they would be like 1 maybe 2 star videos if they were compared to videos of that caliber. And that is why comparing people's videos is fail. If you don't want to support the youtube gaming community then that is your decision. I just know how bad it makes me feel to do a game review that takes over 8 hours to make for 5-10 minutes of video just to see that it has a 3 star rating or so. |
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| XxKomebackKidxX | Aug 8 2009, 08:56 AM Post #9 |
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Yea the tatsplat thing i made a follow up vid to my rant stating what i think of her. She didi one review and mostly does vlog style stuff with little to no editing yet she has all these subs. She was my main point of attack besides CD in my gamer girl rant. Honestly i dont think she 1000+ subs is deserved. Maybe half of that are real subscribers that watch her vids for the reasons she wants them too. Yea i said myself in my follow up vid i was kinda hypocritical in my rant cause i too am guilty of subbing for the wrong reason. Even though tat doesnt have much too offer in vids i still think she knows her stuff gaming wise and when i talk to her i dont have to down talk her like i dont think she would know what im talking about. She totally does. So thats why i give her support. As for CD it truelly felt like she had no clue in my eyes. The Benzo your so hot thing and the constant my boyfriend doesnt give me attention thing was clearly evident to everyone. Although i will admit obviously Tat doesnt do much vids or put much time into them as they are all 1 take. Compared to some reviewers like DinkyDana and Zeitgeistreview who seem like they take hours and hours of time on thier reviews. Yet they have less subs. This is where i was going with the whole tits=subs thing. And yeah my top 25 nes games was garbage One of my first vids and first gos at editing. I really need to redo that. Also, personally i dont think 5 star vid quality is always ones that are HD and hardcore editing. Because a majority of people dont do that on youtube. If u enjoy the vid very much even if it is vlog style that 5 stars. Irate gamer has cool effects but i hate his vids. BTW i apologize for the shittalking comment. Im glad you watch my vids and i will check yours out. Im glad you state your opinion like i did. Edited by XxKomebackKidxX, Aug 8 2009, 08:58 AM.
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| motherwii | Aug 8 2009, 04:51 PM Post #10 |
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One-take videos aren't bad. Why edit them if there is nothing wrong with them. Heck even my videos are all one-takes. TatSplat's videos are all fine the way they are. If you want more subscribers, just do different things on your channel. I know why I don't get the subs I should. People think that I'm some kid that dosen't know a thing. Sure, they may get more subs because they are gamer girls but does it really matter? If I remember my history wasn't there a women's right movement? I thought so. This debate should be over. The End! |
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| sinistermoon | Aug 8 2009, 05:05 PM Post #11 |
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Right on KomebackKid you tell it like it is man. Awesome response. Maybe that is why you are called the komebackkid lol. There is absolutely nothing wrong with one take videos motherwii. But it depends kinda. I mean if it a collection video then I think one take is awesome because it's as real as it gets. I do one take for the most part but I always end up messing up to the point were I repeat a word profusely. Sometimes it is a word people can handle like awesome. But other times it is a swear lol. Some people get all upset about my swearing. I swear often in my everyday life but when I am on cam I think more seems to come out. But that is a problem that I have to deal with I guess. I have gone whole videos with out swearing. But some times I chop up the video in order to eliminate a string of fucks lol. When it comes to game reviews I have to use editing for my commentary. And for bigger games I have to write out my commentary first or at least make foot notes. Otherwise I stumble with a bunch of "ummmmmms" and what not. When I am talking with my friends about games then it just flows out of me. But as soon as I am talking into a mic and know there is a 10 minute limit my brain goes numb or something. Haha numb skull! I felt like an awesome 1980s cartoon villain saying that lol. |
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| jumblejunkie | Aug 8 2009, 05:23 PM Post #12 |
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| sinistermoon | Aug 8 2009, 05:49 PM Post #13 |
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I do watch your videos man! They rock! Jumblejunkie is for sure someone you all should be watching if you are not already. Please watch his videos! He will throw endless copies of Shaq-Fu at new born babies if you don't! |
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