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| What Genesis games wont work on a model 2?; games that wont work on a model 2 | |
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| wulfshelmut | Sep 11 2009, 09:14 PM Post #1 |
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I have heard alot about how some Genesis games wont work on a model 2 genesis. I just bought a model 2 and I have some pretty old games. From about 91 or so. Sword of Vermillion StarFlight 688 Attack Sub I hope these will work with my model 2. What games wont work with a model 2 if you all know? |
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| Kharnivore2099 | Sep 11 2009, 10:42 PM Post #2 |
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Is this the one to replace the last one? hope it's working better. I've never heard of MD/Gen2 not working with games, the 3rd one with region free maybe. I thought the only difference was the sound board and the power supply. I know all my games work with the 2nd model. I use it just cause it's connected to the Mega CD2, saves me messing with the model 1. |
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| majinpowers | Sep 11 2009, 11:05 PM Post #3 |
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There are very few games that will not work on a model 2. These are the very first EA and Accolade unlicensed games. EA was the first game developers that could bypass the proprietary Sega code in the Genesis by reworking there game ROM headers to bypass the lockout. All EA games made between 1989 and 1990 used this method. Sega made what is called the TradeMark Security System (TMSS) and implemented it into the system on the later model 1 systems (ones that don't have the HD logo on the top) and the model 2 systems. The TMSS was a way to check the games ROM header to make sure it was made the correct way. If your game passed the TMSS check then your Genesis would display PRODUCED BY OR UNDER LICENSE FROM SEGA ENTERPRISES LTD on your tv screen and then begin to play your game. If not your game will not load. Sega was very clever in how they made the TMSS because if you were to program a unlicensed game to trick the TMSS into loading your game the words PRODUCED BY OR UNDER LICENSE FROM SEGA ENTERPRISES LTD would still be displayed on the screen and being a unlicensed game this would place you in copyright violation where Sega could sue you. Later after EA came to a agreement with Sega most of there early games were fixed and re-released to work with the TMSS system but games that didn't sell very well were never remade. Accolade got into the Gesesis market because the system was based off the same processor as the Commodore Amiga. (MC68000) After declining to sign with Sega to acquire there licensing Accolade started reverse-engineering Sega's hardware and some of the games on the system to find a work-around for the lock out. Later after the TMSS was put into place Accolade had 5 games that were about to launch so they went ahead and used a reverse-engineered TMSS code in the ROM headers and shipped the games out. Sega immediately sued Accolade because of copyright infringements. After a long and drawn out court battle it was decided that reverse-engineering was part of the fair use act. Accolade ended up getting about $20 million for lost sells due to there games being held back during the court proceedings. Accolade also had to accept a contract on Sega's terms if they wanted to continue making games for the system. These are games That don't work on a model 2 (there are more but I don't know what they are) Zany Golf (EA) Budokan (EA) Ishido: The Way of the Stones (Accolade) Edited by majinpowers, Sep 12 2009, 01:42 AM.
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| wulfshelmut | Sep 12 2009, 01:38 AM Post #4 |
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Yes it is. Im hoping this one works. I believe the 1st one would have worked if the guy I bought it from had sent the right power supply. But he didnt so I had to send it back. All my money was wrapped up in that model 1. I got this model 2 for $13.50 + $10 shipping. Im going to a flea market tomorrow to see what I can find there. If I find a Model 1 Genesis with the HD logo I will buy it. Im kind of broke so all I have to work with is $10. Im hoping to find some cheap games. My nephew goes there all the time and he said a guy has 2 big boxes og Genesis games for 50 cents to 1 dollar for some. Hes going there with me because hes looking for SNES games. |
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| Kharnivore2099 | Sep 12 2009, 12:05 PM Post #5 |
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I only have one flee market/carboot sale near in my area, and it's well out of town on a sunday morning. No chance of me getting there after a saturday night haha. I want an HD version too, i noticed the sound being a little below par on my Model 2 when playing Flashback. But it's attached to my mega CD and cant be bothered messing around with my other model 1. Total lack of space at the moment haha. |
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| wulfshelmut | Sep 12 2009, 07:17 PM Post #6 |
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I didnt find a thing at the flea market. Not a single game or a Model 1 genesis with HD logo. But my model 2 Genesis works very well. All the games start up on the first try. All the games I bought work and the battery back ups all still hold saves. The games have a nice tight fit in the cartridhe slot. Not loose like I have seen some people complain about. Its a bit dirty, but I plan to clean it up. Im going to get some compressed air and I will clean the case and try and clean the insides out with compressed air. |
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| ezbman | Sep 13 2009, 05:02 PM Post #7 |
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I had a problem with some games not working on a model 2 genesis. However, when I switched the 6 button controller with the 3 button controller they all worked. |
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