NostalgiaKing

Mar 22 2010, 12:31 AM

I'm ashamed.

NostalgiaKing

Mar 22 2010, 12:31 AM

I'm ashamed.

Scott

Mar 22 2010, 09:08 AM

Putting my two cents in, I think that socialized medicine is a horrible idea.

In Canada, where there is socialized medicine, it takes years to get a vital surgery, and it takes months to schedule an appointment. Do you hate waiting in the waiting room for an hour to people to get done with their appointments, while waiting for yours? Try waiting for 4 hours. This is the average waiting time for Canadians.

Obama says that it is completely optional and that if you don't want to take part in it, you don't have to. He is right, but do you really think that there will be any normal doctors after the bill is passed? Every doctor will switch over to socialized work, because the government would pay much more than anyone else.

Now for the costs. Has anyone else noticed how Obama has been going on a spending spree? He has spent thousands on trips around the world, trillions on stimuli, and billions on training and sending soldiers to Iraq. Can america even afford socialized medicine? The poor and old are obviously the ones that will use this the most, but who will be paying their bill? That's right, the taxpayers. The rich and middle classes will be paying for stranger's bills, even if they didn't want this kind of health care to begin with!

Almost half of Canadian doctors say they're burned out, emotionally and physically, and blame medicine for putting a drain on their family life. With this in mind, potential doctors will look for other jobs, causing a lower supply of doctors. What will the government do? They will most likely pay the doctors even more to try and convince new doctors to work. This means that the taxpayers get to pay even more to help out the poor and old. It's like mandatory charity!

Scott

Mar 22 2010, 09:08 AM

Putting my two cents in, I think that socialized medicine is a horrible idea.

In Canada, where there is socialized medicine, it takes years to get a vital surgery, and it takes months to schedule an appointment. Do you hate waiting in the waiting room for an hour to people to get done with their appointments, while waiting for yours? Try waiting for 4 hours. This is the average waiting time for Canadians.

Obama says that it is completely optional and that if you don't want to take part in it, you don't have to. He is right, but do you really think that there will be any normal doctors after the bill is passed? Every doctor will switch over to socialized work, because the government would pay much more than anyone else.

Now for the costs. Has anyone else noticed how Obama has been going on a spending spree? He has spent thousands on trips around the world, trillions on stimuli, and billions on training and sending soldiers to Iraq. Can america even afford socialized medicine? The poor and old are obviously the ones that will use this the most, but who will be paying their bill? That's right, the taxpayers. The rich and middle classes will be paying for stranger's bills, even if they didn't want this kind of health care to begin with!

Almost half of Canadian doctors say they're burned out, emotionally and physically, and blame medicine for putting a drain on their family life. With this in mind, potential doctors will look for other jobs, causing a lower supply of doctors. What will the government do? They will most likely pay the doctors even more to try and convince new doctors to work. This means that the taxpayers get to pay even more to help out the poor and old. It's like mandatory charity!

excalibunny

Mar 22 2010, 10:34 AM

Scott, please back up the crap you spew.

Here's a good article debunking the myths you're throwing around.

http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_12523427

Scott

Mar 22 2010, 09:08 AM

Putting my two cents in, I think that socialized medicine is a horrible idea.

In Canada, where there is socialized medicine, it takes years to get a vital surgery, and it takes months to schedule an appointment. Do you hate waiting in the waiting room for an hour to people to get done with their appointments, while waiting for yours? Try waiting for 4 hours. This is the average waiting time for Canadians.

Obama says that it is completely optional and that if you don't want to take part in it, you don't have to. He is right, but do you really think that there will be any normal doctors after the bill is passed? Every doctor will switch over to socialized work, because the government would pay much more than anyone else.

Now for the costs. Has anyone else noticed how Obama has been going on a spending spree? He has spent thousands on trips around the world, trillions on stimuli, and billions on training and sending soldiers to Iraq. Can america even afford socialized medicine? The poor and old are obviously the ones that will use this the most, but who will be paying their bill? That's right, the taxpayers. The rich and middle classes will be paying for stranger's bills, even if they didn't want this kind of health care to begin with!

Almost half of Canadian doctors say they're burned out, emotionally and physically, and blame medicine for putting a drain on their family life. With this in mind, potential doctors will look for other jobs, causing a lower supply of doctors. What will the government do? They will most likely pay the doctors even more to try and convince new doctors to work. This means that the taxpayers get to pay even more to help out the poor and old. It's like mandatory charity!

Direngrey911

Mar 22 2010, 11:55 AM

I agree with scott.
I live in canada and have severe chest pains that come and go. I went to the hospital 3 times. (quotes are exact responces)
1st time I waited 6 hours, the doctor said he couldn't find anything on the X-Ray, so I "don't have anything."
2nd time I waited 6 hours, doctor said I got "some obscure genetic defect that isn't very lethal" and that I "should just ignore it and see what happens."
3rd time I waited 7 hours, the doctor saw me for 5 minutes and told me to "take some advil and get over it."

Canadian Health Care SUCKS.
We wait forever to get checked out and then we get the most incompetent morons imaginable, since the good ones all go to the states, because they get payed 3x what they get here.

just saying...

browland1

Mar 22 2010, 12:05 PM

Direngrey911

Mar 22 2010, 11:55 AM

I agree with scott.
I live in canada and have severe chest pains that come and go. I went to the hospital 3 times. (quotes are exact responces)
1st time I waited 6 hours, the doctor said he couldn't find anything on the X-Ray, so I "don't have anything."
2nd time I waited 6 hours, doctor said I got "some obscure genetic defect that isn't very lethal" and that I "should just ignore it and see what happens."
3rd time I waited 7 hours, the doctor saw me for 5 minutes and told me to "take some advil and get over it."

Canadian Health Care SUCKS.
We wait forever to get checked out and then we get the most incompetent morons imaginable, since the good ones all go to the states, because they get payed 3x what they get here.

just saying...

The Triage nurses will always check you first to make sure your situation is not life threatening. If the situation is critical, they will see to it that you're taken care of first. Case in point, a friend of mine was shot (innocent bystander) and he was rushed into surgery immediately upon arrival. Another time, a friend accidentally fell through a plate glass window and severed an artery, and he was immediately seen to. Another friend of mind had severe stomach pains and she had to wait 5 hours, since people with severe injuries kept coming in. That's the reality of the ER. People in immediate danger of losing life or limb will get taken care of first. It sucks that you had to wait so long to be told that nothing was wrong, but you're still alive and not drowning in debt because of your visits to the hospital, so keep that in perspective.

Direngrey911

Mar 22 2010, 11:55 AM

I agree with scott.
I live in canada and have severe chest pains that come and go. I went to the hospital 3 times. (quotes are exact responces)
1st time I waited 6 hours, the doctor said he couldn't find anything on the X-Ray, so I "don't have anything."
2nd time I waited 6 hours, doctor said I got "some obscure genetic defect that isn't very lethal" and that I "should just ignore it and see what happens."
3rd time I waited 7 hours, the doctor saw me for 5 minutes and told me to "take some advil and get over it."

Canadian Health Care SUCKS.
We wait forever to get checked out and then we get the most incompetent morons imaginable, since the good ones all go to the states, because they get payed 3x what they get here.

just saying...

Direngrey911

Mar 22 2010, 11:55 AM

I agree with scott.
I live in canada and have severe chest pains that come and go. I went to the hospital 3 times. (quotes are exact responces)
1st time I waited 6 hours, the doctor said he couldn't find anything on the X-Ray, so I "don't have anything."
2nd time I waited 6 hours, doctor said I got "some obscure genetic defect that isn't very lethal" and that I "should just ignore it and see what happens."
3rd time I waited 7 hours, the doctor saw me for 5 minutes and told me to "take some advil and get over it."

Canadian Health Care SUCKS.
We wait forever to get checked out and then we get the most incompetent morons imaginable, since the good ones all go to the states, because they get payed 3x what they get here.

just saying...

KeeL246

Mar 22 2010, 12:10 PM

Direngrey911

Mar 22 2010, 11:55 AM

I agree with scott.
I live in canada and have severe chest pains that come and go. I went to the hospital 3 times. (quotes are exact responces)
1st time I waited 6 hours, the doctor said he couldn't find anything on the X-Ray, so I "don't have anything."
2nd time I waited 6 hours, doctor said I got "some obscure genetic defect that isn't very lethal" and that I "should just ignore it and see what happens."
3rd time I waited 7 hours, the doctor saw me for 5 minutes and told me to "take some advil and get over it."

Canadian Health Care SUCKS.
We wait forever to get checked out and then we get the most incompetent morons imaginable, since the good ones all go to the states, because they get payed 3x what they get here.

just saying...

Chest pains will obviously be overlooked to deal with BIGGER injuries, such as what browland1 was saying. You can't expect to go into a hospital saying you're having chest pains and get looked at right away.

excalibunny

Mar 22 2010, 12:14 PM

Keep this in mind for the people acting like Universal Health Care is so bad.

It cost me 800 dollars for a ambulance ride, 5,000 dollars for a cat scan, and I don't want to even get into how much my surgery cost.

KeeL246

Mar 22 2010, 12:16 PM

excalibunny

Mar 22 2010, 12:14 PM

Keep this in mind for the people acting like Universal Health Care is so bad.

It cost me 800 dollars for a ambulance ride, 5,000 dollars for a cat scan, and I don't want to even get into how much my surgery cost.

Exactly, would you rather pay that much money, or wait longer for trips to the hospital.

excalibunny

Mar 22 2010, 12:40 PM

KeeL246

Mar 22 2010, 12:16 PM

excalibunny

Mar 22 2010, 12:14 PM

Keep this in mind for the people acting like Universal Health Care is so bad.

It cost me 800 dollars for a ambulance ride, 5,000 dollars for a cat scan, and I don't want to even get into how much my surgery cost.

Exactly, would you rather pay that much money, or wait longer for trips to the hospital.

Dude, I had to wait like 7 hours in the E.R., so it was a freaking long wait. I have bill collectors calling me everyday.