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| Draven26 | Apr 26 2010, 05:25 PM Post #51 |
 
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While I much prefer the first edition as opposed to the greatest hits/platinum editions, if I find a game I have been wanting and my only option is GH then I will buy it. My main goal is to play the game, I only buy games I intend on playing. SO basically I prefer the first edition but if I want to play a game I am not going to let the color of the label or the date it was released stop me from playing it |
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| Draven26 | Apr 26 2010, 05:46 PM Post #52 |
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I know you are into music so I will give a musical example. One of my guitars is a 1969 Fender Mustang Reissue. It was made to the specifications of the 1969 model however made in the mid 1990's. My guitar however will never be worth and coveted like the original model due to the fact that it isnt the original. The reissue models are generally mass produced and at a much lower price then you can find the original models. the same applies in this case with games. The greatest hits models are released much later than the original copy and mass produced. This relates to much higher sales totals than the original copy making the original harder to find and much more valuable in most cases. From a collecting stand point the harder to find copy is always going to be more valuable no matter what you collect Edited by Draven26, Apr 26 2010, 05:47 PM.
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| 8comicbooknerd9 | Apr 26 2010, 06:04 PM Post #53 |
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Its a funny old thing really this. Personally I prefer Original releases but I will still happily play and buy a platinum game. I don't count them in my collection but I do still buy them all the same. I remember buy FF x from a shop called CEX who had about 20 odd copy's of the game, I looked through them all until I found the original version as opposed to a platinum version. I don't know why as they were all the same price but I just wanted the original. |
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| ps3girlgamer1990 | Apr 26 2010, 06:04 PM Post #54 |
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now the way you explained it in relation to guitars has made the most sense out of everything i've read Edited by TheHBF, Apr 26 2010, 08:39 PM.
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| DizzyDial | Apr 26 2010, 06:12 PM Post #55 |
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now That's maturity
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| 8comicbooknerd9 | Apr 26 2010, 06:14 PM Post #56 |
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Arguments like this are unnecessary and not what this forum ( in my opinion ) is about, I think the best thing to do is just leave it be, If someone ( not saying anyone in particular) in this thread has annoyed you, just try and let it go. Lets just all go on and talk about the games we like! Lets not fuel this fire any longer guys! |
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| ps3girlgamer1990 | Apr 26 2010, 06:20 PM Post #57 |
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| Ross R. | Apr 26 2010, 06:34 PM Post #58 |
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I have to agree I hate those red Playstation labels with a passion. The Gamecube's isn't that bad, neither is the X-Box 360 Platinum. Sony, however, knows how to mess up my game shelf. I hate the PS1's green "Greatest Hits" labels and the PS2's Red cases make me want to vomit. I haven't bought one in 2 1/2 years becuase of it. |
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| Xsleepyx3 | Apr 26 2010, 06:52 PM Post #59 |
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WOAH WOAH WOAH!!!! this thread doesnt have to be locked! all you gotta do is just stop trying to get the last word in and realize what is actually going on. who cares what the other person say. just let it be.
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| TheHBF | Apr 26 2010, 08:05 PM Post #60 |
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Pleas let's just respect the opinions of others and leave these kind of arguments somewhere else. This thread won't be locked, but any unrelated side conversations will be deleted. With that in mind, let's get this thread back on track. |
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| vayhne | Apr 26 2010, 11:24 PM Post #61 |
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I dont like the change in the box art from either platinum or greatest hits, it still is the same game, but looks awefull on your shelf with the non greatest hits. |
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| XxKomebackKidxX | Apr 27 2010, 12:05 AM Post #62 |
 
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Yea this thread will not be locked. I see nothing that requires it to be locked. We are discussing and TRYING constently to explain this. Basically this is how it goes: Anyone who collects things wants things their own specific way in thier collection. Say they collect snes games such as Skill7acular he wants box/manual/cart. That is what he is striving for in his personal collection even though if he just downloaded an emulater or bought cart only he would be able to play the exact same game. He isnt "Discriminating" against the cart only games. It is just he PREFERS to have complete versions of games in his collection. And again people not wanting something to clash with thier collection is not bullshit or stubborn or anything else. Collecting is something totally different than just playing games. Like eskill and I have said its about aesthetics. And that goes for anything collectable. Stamps, action figures, comic books, etc. The originals are always sought after more and worth more. Could you read the same comic online or have the same action figure outside the box. YES you could. But it isnt the same thing to collectors who want an established collection of THIER PERSONAL PREFERENCE. Sorry for the caps but apparently points are'nt getting taken that are extremely simple in nature. Id like to hear what pete thinks about this topic cause im fairly certain what hes gonna say. And ps3girlgamer may i ask why you would take a platinum hits game if a generic case gamestop game was right there by it? Is it because you would PREFER to have that in your collection rather than a generic case. Because if this is the case then you are no different than us wanting a original case rather than a Greatest hits. Edited by XxKomebackKidxX, Apr 27 2010, 12:07 AM.
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| Porcelain | Apr 27 2010, 12:36 AM Post #63 |
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I would like them better if the cases weren't so poorly done, it's like they are trying to make them as least attractive as possible. It's like they want to make you feel bad for not buying the first printings of the game or something.  I hate, and I mean HATE the silver cases of the 360 games, and when they use to actually cut down the size of the original picture on the cover just to make sure the graphics and words of "Platinum" stood out. Ugly and very poor marketing choice. Leave the case the same colour, Add a different colour bar or something above the title that indicates it's a greatest hit title, or have a different colour bar on the side of the case that indicates this. Otherwise I wouldn't mind, since sometimes even collectors can miss out on some great games. Not all of us can afford certain titles right off the hop. If I can I prefer the originals, but it's not completely necessary. |
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| bediger | Apr 27 2010, 06:52 AM Post #64 |
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Can I ask all the collectors who own a Wii, did they buy the New Super Mario? It's the only case that I can think of that is not white, is this a game that is not counted in a collection because it is unsightly? |
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| eSkilliam | Apr 27 2010, 07:42 AM Post #65 |
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I think someone was hitting on the right side of the topic earlier... Scenario: You go to the store, and you see 3 versions of a game: 1) the original box art version that matches the other games for the system 2) the greatest hits version in a different color case or label 3) the gamestop generic cover version with the funky looking kids on the front All three discs are in like new condition and all are the same price... Which one do you buy? Now think about this. Since all 3 are available, you aren't going to get the one without a cover... why would you? So now your choices are the greatest hits version or the original version. Chances are you are going to get the original version because A) It matches most of your other games covers on that system and B) In the even that the game becomes well sought after down the road, you have the more 'valuable' version OK... now everyone should agree on that much... Now collectors set certain goals for their collections and sometimes are willing to go the extra mile to ensure that the copy they own is the original version for the above reasons. That's all, it's about the goals for your collection. I don't think that anyone is in disagreement, that when actually playing the game, 99% of the time you will get the same enjoyment or disappointed out of all 3 copies. I think that pretty much sums up both sides of the argument, and proves that there is no right or wrong way to look at it. Now everyone quit saying everyones opinions are crap, and just try to understand why each person has their particular opinion. Now as far as being a collector... Just buying a lot of games and playing them doesn't make you a 'collector'. It makes you a 'gamer'. Collectors have to have certain goals for their collections, and don't even necessarily play all the games they buy for those collections. Myself for instance, when it comes to next gen systems, I'm a gamer, I buy for DS, 360, PS3 (and PS1/2 for that matter) and I buy to play the games. I have some greatest hits type games in those 'collections' for lack of a better term and I mostly buy whatever I want to play with a few cheap titles thrown in to try out and see if I like them. Those 'collections' should not be confused with my collection for NES which I am approaching as a 'collector' and not a 'gamer'. I have set certain goals for that particular system, which is to get all North American officially licensed carts, and I am collecting it cart only. Being a 'gamer' isn't as time consuming and doesn't require as much planning and searching as does being a 'collector'. Both, however, are very rewarding in their own ways. Sorry for being long winded, but all of this had to be addressed in some kind of orderly fashion. Edited by eSkilliam, Apr 27 2010, 07:49 AM.
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| KingJames88 | Apr 27 2010, 07:45 AM Post #66 |
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As someone that collects DS games, I want my collection to be a certain way, For instance, no imports for one, and not bootleg games either. The only second print running games I refuse to have in my collection that I can think of are those horrid castlevania reprints that have a picture of a picture of the game itself as the cover art, instead of just the cover art. It's horrible and uncalled for. |
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| browland1 | Apr 27 2010, 08:13 AM Post #67 |
 
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It definitely clashes, but keep in mind that this was the only version released and gamers/collectors didn't have any other options. Watching other Youtubers, some commented that they wished the game had the standard white case, but this was a high profile game (and a great one at that), so I don't think anyone would have passed on this game just because of a red cover. Whether or not someone would count that in their collection depends on how they define their collection; I personally would since it's a game I own. If the game had come with the option of a standard white case, I probably would have taken that. |
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| bediger | Apr 27 2010, 08:16 AM Post #68 |
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@eSkilliam You make some good points. Maybe comparing gamers to collectors is like comparing apples to oranges. Yes, they both share a common passion, but approach it from very different angles. Myself as a gamer, my priority is the game first. To not buy/count a game because of the box colour or art seems absurd to me; however I understand that it is of the upmost importance to some collectors. |
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| hooflung128 | Apr 27 2010, 09:01 AM Post #69 |
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Ok let me start by saying I completely understand where the 'collector' is coming from. I would rather have originals, preferable bought by myself sealed and NEW ( thanks gamestop for making life hard ). However, I also we have a division in ideology here. Games are not cars and while the comparison might make sense because a replica is a replica I don't really think it truely fits. The games we are talking about are mostly disc games. There is nothing tangible here as the discs are printed off at many different print houses. They are effectively outsourced. So there is so much diversity in what is printed here it's not funny. Then we are talking about a compiled code. It is essentially the same game unless you are getting into multiple iterations where the latest is the one used for the re-release, such as Lost Planet for the Xbox 360. This is colonies, not the original. So technically it depends on your personal preference to 'collecting.' No one side is wrong here and the free market will decide the price of each because each preference is represented. Eventually the collector that does care is going to put themselves in a position to either pay higher price for 'black labels' when the collectors, or gamers, who just care about the game gobble up all the re-releases and they all go up in price. So for me, it is all about how much comes out of my pocket. I am wanting to play the games and have them available for me to play them. Nothing more. I am fine with re-releases if they are cheaper. If I want a game so bad I'll usually buy it new on release and maybe consider a collectors edition. I also think if I want to 'collect' a game I might buy two copies and keep one closes for 'collectors' sake. However, if I missed out on a generation like I did with the xbox/ps2/cube where most of my gaming was done on the PC then I have to take what I can get with the money I have. Hence Amazon.com and Greatest Hits! But be sure I don't consider elite collectors snobs. It is really cool people are taking their hobby seriously and have their own methods of doing things. It is just not as important to me over having a really good condition copy of the game. Edited by hooflung128, Apr 27 2010, 09:03 AM.
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| Andsy | Apr 27 2010, 09:24 AM Post #70 |
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Can I ask then... Where does digital distribution factor into this? Same game. You can 'display' your Steam Queue, and quite often it even costs the same as a physical copy (at least over here in the UK) I'd much rather purchase an OG case, than a platinum. And I'd much rather buy a platinum over a digital copy. Hell, I don't even consider my digital purchases to be part of my collection at all. XBLA, Steam. I'll play them, but I'm not fussed about them to be honest. |
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| hooflung128 | Apr 27 2010, 09:59 AM Post #71 |
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Well to be blunt I think that idea is ridiculous to say digital games are not a part of your collection. It is just different. For me, knowing that most of my Steam Games have had the initial release copy protection removed is more important than having a physical copy because most of the physical copy protection is nothing but a root-kit. I don't mind steam DRM because it is abstracted way from the file-system and hardware abstraction layers unlike Securom and Star Force. Not to mention Ubi's crap DRM where you loose your internet connection your game shuts down. PC games are a different animal and Steam is not gong away any time soon. Also, you can make backups of your games from Steam to have a physical copy if they ever shut down. So having a bunch of burned DVD's or a blue-ray backups still gets you a physical copy. As for consoles digital gaming is a bit more gray area. I don't think you should discount them from your collection. They are just different than physical copies. Sony's way is a bit more in line with my thinking. Buy once, download many. You format your drive you can still download the game again. Not sure how MS does it as I haven't bought an arcade game yet. Nintendo's VC seems a bit bullshit. It is tied to that machine. However the DLC is where I kinda sit lips clenched tight. I don't know if I like parts of games being unavailable to you if the service dies. I don't think that is fair and it will change the way games are collected going forward. Knights of the Old Republic for the Xbox is a good example. Now that live is gone for it... how will I play the DLC on my xbox? So yeah there are concerns there. But if you think collecting is only collecting if you got a physical copy then you might want to exit planet zeta alpha and come back to earth. Times are changing for better or for worse. That is why I gave up trying to not use emulators and roms... if they aren't going to offer a game on today's media then screw em. I'll play the game somehow. Edited by hooflung128, Apr 27 2010, 10:00 AM.
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| Andsy | Apr 27 2010, 10:14 AM Post #72 |
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Side Note - XBLA purchases are sort of tied to account, and tied to console. Some purchases will only allow you to play on one console, but you can reassign the license to another console once a year. So if your 360 dies, you can reassign your XBLA games to your new console. Collecting to me, is about owning the box, the whole instructions, all the gubbings. I like going to my shelf, pulling out Link to the Past, and having the map, the secrets, the manual, the whole lot. Just as it was initially sold, all those years ago. I like the idea of the item depreciating in the value on condition, the fragility of it all. That's why I look after my collection, and nerdgasm over sealed copies. Digital Distribution just subtracts too much away from that experience. Just my thoughts, I don't expect everyone to understand where I'm coming from, but that's ok
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| hooflung128 | Apr 27 2010, 10:27 AM Post #73 |
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Well I wish I could collect like that but its just not feasible to me. I have too many wants and needs in life to be too picky about which version and how complete it is. I wish every version of a game was like new but unfortunately those days died with cartridge based titles. Every game has a lifespan and I want the games in my collection to reflect longevity over completeness of a day one version. If I can have my cake and eat it too, then it is win win. |
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| Andsy | Apr 27 2010, 10:32 AM Post #74 |
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Aye. I'm not saying I won't buy platinum games. I'm just saying, I'm pretty discriminate. If it's a relatively common game, I'll hold on out until I can get the original title. If it's a rare game, I'll buy the platinum regardless. I'll just beat it, and keep it seperate from the 'good' labelled games. Because it's inferior, and I wouldn't want my other games catching it's gross disease :| |
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| bediger | Apr 27 2010, 10:51 AM Post #75 |
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What are people feeling on GOTY (game of the year edition) games? As far as I'm aware they look very similar to the original casing. Would your preference be more content or original label? |
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