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| Tweet Topic Started: May 31 2010, 10:45 PM (765 Views) | |
| ctx47 | May 31 2010, 10:45 PM Post #1 |
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why do you think the ps1,the sega cd,the gamecube,the game boy,the jagwure,the nintendo 64,sega genis,the dreamcast, and ALL the other great system have to die? please replie. |
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| Richard | May 31 2010, 10:48 PM Post #2 |
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It was time to expand the technology and make an attempt to take more of the market share. All those game systems shouldn't be in the same category though. Comparing the PS1 to an atari jaguar and sega cd should be a crime. |
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| DizzyDial | May 31 2010, 10:50 PM Post #3 |
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That's like saying 'Why did David Carradine have to die?' Welp, because he was old. |
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| ctx47 | May 31 2010, 10:57 PM Post #4 |
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whoa! sorry you feel like that dude |
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| Mett | Jun 1 2010, 08:37 AM Post #5 |
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But David Carradine didn't die from old age, he died from hanging himself :o |
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| browland1 | Jun 1 2010, 09:07 AM Post #6 |
 
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Technology progresses, it's as simple as that. New systems replace old ones as the graphics, sound and gameplay evolves. As much as we love nostalgic games, it's hard to imagine people nowadays buying an N64 in lieu of a PS3. However, that's not to say that the old systems can't live on - many people still collect classic games and the older systems are still widely played. The systems may be out of production, but the games live on. |
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| hooflung128 | Jun 1 2010, 09:46 AM Post #7 |
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In fact, the Playstation 1 lives on to this very day. Not only are all 3 Sony Consoles able to play original Playstation titles, the playstation network allows you to download PS1 titles to your PS3 or PSP. Nintendo 64 has a lot of titles on Virtual Console. Nintendo has a cap on how large a download can be so it won't bring the Saturn and Dreamcast titles to it even though though they wanted to. For instance, Capcom wanted to push Marvel vs Capcom 2 out on Wii but they couldn't because Nintendo doesn't have a good storage method that is uniform so they cap the size of the games. Capcom doesn't own the publishing license to Marvel vs Capcom 2 except for digital downloads. These business models from the 90's is why you don't see more games available to this very day. Don't think they are overlooking Nostalgia based games one bit... their is a legal department that is working to bring them out when they can. |
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| DizzyDial | Jun 1 2010, 05:02 PM Post #8 |
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Actually he died from auto-erotic asphyxiation, but that was part of the joke 
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| DizzyDial | Jun 1 2010, 05:03 PM Post #9 |
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(My humor is offensive and lame, i know) |
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| ctx47 | Jun 1 2010, 07:34 PM Post #10 |
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what i ment was why couldint they make more REAL games for the systems. not just downloading them on your pc or buying it off of xbox live arcade or psn. |
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| Direngrey911 | Jun 1 2010, 07:34 PM Post #11 |
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That's like asking "why isn't the colecovision kicking the crap out of the XBox360??" While the library of games are far superior on the colecovision, it's just... antiquated by today's standards |
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| ctx47 | Jun 1 2010, 07:54 PM Post #12 |
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hey guys, i dont care what you say as long as you comment. sorry for hurting your guys ''video games'' feelings. |
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| Porcelain | Jun 1 2010, 08:02 PM Post #13 |
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Than why would you create a topic if you don't care, just as long as they have comments that you don't care about? I'm confused, try and be respectful please. There are pretty valid points here, to collectors or those who love nostalgia these consoles never truly die, they become classics, something you revisit, you can still spot a lot of originality in the industry in the good SNES days, and Gamecube days. Same goes for the Sega Gen. Just as technology changes and grows so will consoles, we couldn't live in an 8 bit or 16 bit era forever. Kids now grow up with so much technology and CGI graphics, and powerful computers that it would make no sense to keep gaming consoles stunted in an era. |
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| energy | Jun 2 2010, 10:26 AM Post #14 |
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Aren't the old systems even more treasured now and appreciated? The advance in technology is wonderful (in my opinion). The older systems never died, then they live on in gamecollectors rooms! 
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| ctx47 | Jun 3 2010, 12:20 AM Post #15 |
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no, i mean why did they like, have to give up on all these wonderful sysetems? just because a ''new'' system comes out and just because the companese THINK they might not make monney. |
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| NinjaPenguin8969 | Jun 3 2010, 12:40 AM Post #16 |
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They died because technology is always advancing, and people love to have the newest gadgets on the market. Plus the older systems are just ugly. They have no place in my entertainment center...lol.  I hate how the newer systems are unreliable, but at least they're pleasant to look at. PS3 especially 
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| sdcpro | Jun 3 2010, 12:41 AM Post #17 |
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Money, the #1 thing a business is going for. They can simply make more by pulling their resources into selling just 1 system and software for that 1 system. By opening up older consoles and reselling them, they are dividing their fanbase and also increasing production costs. Very complicated but overall, it's just not worth it for them to continue production on older systems. |
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| BONEYARDS1989 | Jun 3 2010, 12:58 AM Post #18 |
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Lol, no it isn't, David Carradine died masturbating with a rope around his neck ahahah. |
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| hooflung128 | Jun 3 2010, 01:00 AM Post #19 |
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Well it all comes down to tool kits, programming limitations, legal issues and industry progress. Despite the game industry being a business game developers have something in their belly, brains and heart that needs to get out. That something is only as good as the tools available to them. For cartridge based systems, manufacturers of the memory technology used for the ROM storage have moved on. Keeping aging technology for a partner, even one as big as Nintendo, limits resources to R&D further innovations. For Sony, the limitations in its graphics technology are well documented but let us face it many of the games originated in Japan. The documentation to seep the very last bit of tech out of it are also in Japanese. The way the a development house works is that the Game company sends out development kits. There is a standard programming API and the early games are very rudimentary and follow the API very closely. In programming terms, if Sony provides a way to make water by the API it might not be the best way to do it. Moreover, it might not be suitable to implement that function because it won't integrate well with other things being rendered in the scene because of hardware limitations. In other words, the calculations can be mixed together and the data will get dirty. So developers will create their own functions. It goes into a battle chest of programming tools. This is known as the toolchain. What that means is if there is 50 different developers ran by 50 different publishers you can guarentee there will be 40 different toolchains. Some will follow a strict aherence to the original API and may even use some of Sony's pre-built data structures. What happens in reality is that you'll have 10 publishers that manage those 50 developers and the publisher has a lot of clout in the legal department that can push toolchains around so that devs share tech. Developers that use publishers to get game exposure don't like being limited legally with 'their games'. However, they know that if they don't the fruit of their spoils might not be so ripe. It is the nature of the beast and thankfully the indy game developers are really pushing hard to change this. EA have even the EA Partners program that lets developers keep IP of the games which is 100x better than what it was during the N64-PS1 era. What this means is that you have a culmination of many different variables that will limit game development on older tech. What I'd like you to remember is that this isn't all for not, having years of programming toolchains sitting on some ancient 90's era server backup. What usually happens is that developers will take console tech from a few generations and build it into handhelds. That way they can circumvent distribution rights, reuse code so they can develop a game today that has a proven mature codebase. The PSP and DS are shining examples of this. Now you know. And knowing is half the battle. |
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| DizzyDial | Jun 3 2010, 02:26 PM Post #20 |
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I know, It was a bad joke :/ |
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| appletsauce | Jun 3 2010, 06:53 PM Post #21 |
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New systems put the "wow" back in gaming and money into developers' pockets. Eventually the old are pushed aside. |
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| Golden_Age_Gamer | Jun 3 2010, 10:14 PM Post #22 |
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Dreamcast didn't need to DIE!! I loved her so much. |
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| hooflung128 | Jun 3 2010, 11:08 PM Post #23 |
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Dreamcast was ahead of it's time. It ended up being the sacrificial lamb 
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| Golden_Age_Gamer | Jun 3 2010, 11:22 PM Post #24 |
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I tried to protect her, and keep her safe from all danger........She was my everything. I loved her, I use to put discs inside her like no man could, and that sound she would make while I'm controlling her....AMAZING. |
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| hooflung128 | Jun 4 2010, 07:56 AM Post #25 |
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My first dreamcast I had a keyboard and used NetBSD. Could never get the Linux to boot into a proper environment but NetBSD worked the treat. Man... far ahead of its time. Time to find another keyboard and break out my Utopia Boot disc. |
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