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| majicpen | Jun 10 2010, 05:34 PM Post #1 |
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hey guys, is it wrong to download a game to see if i like it b4 i buy it? i wanna try xeno gears but its $120 |
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| DizzyDial | Jun 10 2010, 05:39 PM Post #2 |
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Sure, it's 'wrong,' but as long as you're going to buy it, I see no problem. I never thought of emulating games before I buy them, but written and video reviews give me enough of an idea of the gameplay. |
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| burningmice | Jun 10 2010, 05:49 PM Post #3 |
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While I don't condone piracy I admit I have done this multiple times. I download the game and play it for a few hours. if I like what I see then I plan to buy the actual game and uninstall the pirated copy. |
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| FingersmadnessPCgamer | Jun 10 2010, 05:53 PM Post #4 |
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i don't think that pirating is wrong as long as you do not sell or share what you downloaded |
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| Stephleref | Jun 10 2010, 05:54 PM Post #5 |
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Everybody does piracy,it could be in gaming or another media like music. Long as you understand that it is wrong and make up for it by supporting your hobby you are good in my book. |
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| majicpen | Jun 10 2010, 06:23 PM Post #6 |
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thanks guys, you helped me alot
Edited by majicpen, Jun 10 2010, 06:24 PM.
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| Richard | Jun 10 2010, 07:26 PM Post #7 |
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Xenogears cost 40 dollars man. The problem with a lot of pirates is that they say that they do it to just try a game and it up playing the game to completion or just drop it and never end up actually buying the game. It is a lot worse to pirate new games that developers are still generating money off of than say a nes/snes game where the companies no longer generate revenue. |
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| burningmice | Jun 10 2010, 07:33 PM Post #8 |
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I completely agree with this. However I personally have a problem with owning this stuff for more than just to try the game out. Thats just personal preference though, I like to have a real copy of the games. If others pirate for retro consoles I don't really have a problem as I would with newer ones. But even then it's up to them, I have no right to tell them not to do anything. |
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| majicpen | Jun 10 2010, 07:33 PM Post #9 |
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umm no its 120, if it was 40, i would buy it, usa gets everything cheaper |
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| MGS Metal Gear Solid | Jun 10 2010, 07:52 PM Post #10 |
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He assumed you were from the States, and you also never specified the type of currency you use, so I can see why he got confused. I remember reading a couple months back that's it's legal to "demo" a game for twenty-four hours, but you must delete it afterwards. That was for the USA, but it sounds fishy to me. A "try before you buy" is still illegal, but it's up to you if you're going to be honest with yourself and delete it afterwards. Edited by MGS Metal Gear Solid, Jun 10 2010, 07:53 PM.
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| KingJames88 | Jun 10 2010, 08:27 PM Post #11 |
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I feel if a game has peaked your interest enough to try it, that means someone did their job to get you interested which alone could be considered a reason to buy a game. Let's not forget about the people that have been put out of business because of piracy, such as Cing filing for bankruptcy earlier this year. A good example of this is the game hotel dusk, of which I know a lot of people downloaded the rom because it looked interesting, played through the game, and then never bought it because they saw no reason to after beating the game. It's very easy to say your only trying to see if you like it, but then play a good portion and never pay for the game. |
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| burningmice | Jun 10 2010, 08:30 PM Post #12 |
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I completely understand what you're saying. I know that people unfortunately do this, it really is sad to see companies make quality products and see them go bankrupt for it. I really hate how my stepbrother calls me "retarded" for actually buying PSP games... |
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| Lawnboi | Jun 10 2010, 08:45 PM Post #13 |
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I don't download. I buy from walmart, if the game sucks I return it... Because Walmart will return anything... absolutely anything |
 
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| Richard | Jun 10 2010, 09:18 PM Post #14 |
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Where do you live man? I own a CIB Black Label Xenogears and in the USA it isn't 120, but you are right being a US gamer is much cheaper than anywhere else in the world except maybe Japan. Edited by Richard, Jun 10 2010, 09:18 PM.
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| DizzyDial | Jun 10 2010, 11:24 PM Post #15 |
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Amazon has a new copy for around $120 and a used one for around $35. |
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| browland1 | Jun 10 2010, 11:32 PM Post #16 |
 
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I'm not personally into modding my systems or buying pirated games. If there is a game I feel strong enough about to devote time to, I'll buy it so that I can add it to the collection. I'm all about collecting, and I'm willing to bargain hunt so that the damage is minimal if the game is a turkey. I also find it funny how people justify piracy (movies, music and games) as "not stealing" for various absurd reasons; you save money, game companies are rich and won't miss my money, or my favorite, everyone else is doing it. You're splitting hairs - it's stealing! Downloading music and movies is stealing. But it's the socially acceptable crime, so you're not likely to draw the ire of people for doing it. Is it wrong? In principle, yes, but that's unlikely to dissuade people. |
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| sdcpro | Jun 10 2010, 11:41 PM Post #17 |
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I'm all for emulating/pirating if you have no other means (financially, physical unable to acquire the system, etc). I don't think there's a way to stop people around you from doing it. It's just too well-known, widely socially accepted, and cheaper. Game developers really need to step up their security if they want piracy to step-down at all. |
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| Mett | Jun 10 2010, 11:42 PM Post #18 |
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I don't honestly see anything wrong with it if the game is out of print. Like with Xenogears, I'd say go for it. At this point your not really stealing profits from Square-Enix, they have this up on the Japanese PSN, but not the US or UK PSN. "I also find it funny how people justify piracy (movies, music and games) as "not stealing" for various absurd reasons; you save money, game companies are rich and won't miss my money, or my favorite, everyone else is doing it. You're splitting hairs - it's stealing! Downloading music and movies is stealing. But it's the socially acceptable crime, so you're not likely to draw the ire of people for doing it. Is it wrong? In principle, yes, but that's unlikely to dissuade people. " LoL, my philosophy on the whole matter is, people pay for the internet, so why can't they have access to whatever is on the internet? :p Edited by Mett, Jun 10 2010, 11:45 PM.
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| majicpen | Jun 11 2010, 05:12 AM Post #19 |
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i live in Australia, most games never come which suck ass so yea 120 bucks is lame |
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| Andsy | Jun 11 2010, 05:34 AM Post #20 |
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I often pirate, and I'll continue to do so. Sometimes it's due to trying before I buy, othertimes it's because the games leak 2 weeks early, and I wanna get my grunny mitts on it asap. However, if I like the game, I'll damn well buy it. I appreciate the amount of time it takes for the developers to make a game, and they work so god damn hard on it. Their hard work needs to be rewarded. Plus, if you STEAL the game, you're damaging the chances of getting a sequel. And that shit doesn't sit tight with me. No Sirree. |
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| FlamesOfGrey | Jun 11 2010, 07:20 AM Post #21 |
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If you're pirating something even just to test it out you're wrong and stealing from the people who made it (whether it's some or all of their work depending on how long you play through it). It's that cut and dry in my opinion. I would say keep looking for the game at a cheaper price or wait for the PSN release outside of Japan if you own a PS3/PSP. |
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| Mett | Jun 11 2010, 08:50 AM Post #22 |
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Xenogears might never come to the PSNs outside of Japan though Grey. |
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| KingJames88 | Jun 11 2010, 09:22 AM Post #23 |
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I agree with this. Just because it's media doesn't mean it doesn't count as stealing. Willing to admit it's wrong and do it anyway is one thing, but it's different to not even see what's wrong with it. That is much worse in my opinion. Being that it's so easy to do and hard to get caught doesn't make it any less wrong. If the game interests you enough to try it, give the people that interested you your money, as that's what they work for. |
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| appletsauce | Jun 11 2010, 06:56 PM Post #24 |
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it's wrong, but that doesn't necessarily have any affect on whether or not you'll do anyway. You'll have to decide for yourself. |
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| hooflung128 | Jun 11 2010, 07:33 PM Post #25 |
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It is wrong, but the United States Copyright office has been running an unconstitutional methodology for years. It is pretty much bold faced Fascism and ran by industry lawyers and interest groups. Even patent holders as big as IBM, and they may very well be the biggest, say they only have to troll the patent office so they won't get sued themselves and the system is broken. Also, backups are a tricky business. For instance it is legal 100% to backup your media. It is however 100% illegal to use someone else's means of backing up the media if the copyright is still in effect. You can make your own, just like you are technically legally entitled to make your own DVD backup which bypasses encryption. However, you cannot use someone elses method of doing it OR give anyone your own method. Which kinda defeats the purpose of fair use. At some point, US citizens need to ask their congress members to try to change life time appointments to the Supreme Court. They uphold the DMCA that violates fair use. Moreover, they are upholding that Firmware cannot be considered in fair use. Which is why everything is moving towards having pretty big amounts of features found in Firmware. You are not legally entitled to tamper with it, ie hacking even if it is for your own use for education. IE, if it isn't electrical your fucked. So I might have the propensity to break the law sometimes in regards to Roms/ISO/Emulator every now and then. The system is operating out of the boundaries of its articles of inception, so I will too if it appeases me. |
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