XxKomebackKidxX

Jun 19 2010, 06:24 PM

alright moving on from the zeldas and marios and doom, any more games to suggest?

appletsauce

Jun 22 2010, 08:45 PM

I think Wild Arms is a great game for the top list, and it's not so popular that it would win by default. I think it's a great game, great soundtrack, 2D graphics in-game and 3D in battle, kind of best of both worlds. Story is OK. But the part that's really fun about the game is the tool system. You gather tools in dungeons, labyrinths, etc., and each person in your group has a set of tools. Most of the fun in the game is figuring out how to use your tools to get through each dungeon. You can also use your tools most anywhere except the overworld. A truly great game I recommend to anyone. If you've got any Playstation or PSP, I recommend getting the disc and/or downloading it from PSN (only $5.99). It's truly an overlooked masterpiece.

NinjaPenguin8969

Jun 22 2010, 09:27 PM

I'd say Halo. Microsoft probably would not be in the video game business still if it wasn't for the incredible success of the Halo franchise. It's also right up there with GoldenEye and Perfect Dark when it comes to making console FPS games popular, and Halo 2 set the standard for online gaming on consoles.

pokemonzrpg

Jun 22 2010, 11:47 PM

NinjaPenguin8969

Jun 22 2010, 09:27 PM

I'd say Halo. Microsoft probably would not be in the video game business still if it wasn't for the incredible success of the Halo franchise. It's also right up there with GoldenEye and Perfect Dark when it comes to making console FPS games popular, and Halo 2 set the standard for online gaming on consoles.

Oh please don't consider Halo for the list. It really doesn't compare to Goldeneye 007 as far as revolutionizing goes, and I think the series as a whole is overrated. Don't kill me because I speak the truth!

Richard

Jun 23 2010, 02:09 AM

pokemonzrpg

Jun 22 2010, 11:47 PM

NinjaPenguin8969

Jun 22 2010, 09:27 PM

I'd say Halo. Microsoft probably would not be in the video game business still if it wasn't for the incredible success of the Halo franchise. It's also right up there with GoldenEye and Perfect Dark when it comes to making console FPS games popular, and Halo 2 set the standard for online gaming on consoles.

Oh please don't consider Halo for the list. It really doesn't compare to Goldeneye 007 as far as revolutionizing goes, and I think the series as a whole is overrated. Don't kill me because I speak the truth!

I am one of those who takes the view that Halo is not overrated atleast for the first two. The first one pretty much single handedly kept a system alive and pushed it and the second revolutionized console online gaming.

Halo 1 in my opinion was a better game than golden eye time considerations considered. Golden Eye in many ways is a bundle full of memories and times with friends, but really analyze the flaws of the game and you will see that they are there and there are plenty.

There are many people who hate on Halo, but you can thank Halo 1 for better or worst for jump starting the fps craze to new huge levels and halo 2 for setting the stage for new age console online gaming(you can thank Socom for part of that also).

Halo>Half life and Golden Eye.

Richard

Jun 23 2010, 02:09 AM

pokemonzrpg

Jun 22 2010, 11:47 PM

NinjaPenguin8969

Jun 22 2010, 09:27 PM

I'd say Halo. Microsoft probably would not be in the video game business still if it wasn't for the incredible success of the Halo franchise. It's also right up there with GoldenEye and Perfect Dark when it comes to making console FPS games popular, and Halo 2 set the standard for online gaming on consoles.

Oh please don't consider Halo for the list. It really doesn't compare to Goldeneye 007 as far as revolutionizing goes, and I think the series as a whole is overrated. Don't kill me because I speak the truth!

I am one of those who takes the view that Halo is not overrated atleast for the first two. The first one pretty much single handedly kept a system alive and pushed it and the second revolutionized console online gaming.

Halo 1 in my opinion was a better game than golden eye time considerations considered. Golden Eye in many ways is a bundle full of memories and times with friends, but really analyze the flaws of the game and you will see that they are there and there are plenty.

There are many people who hate on Halo, but you can thank Halo 1 for better or worst for jump starting the fps craze to new huge levels and halo 2 for setting the stage for new age console online gaming(you can thank Socom for part of that also).

Halo>Half life and Golden Eye.

Richard

Jun 22 2010, 08:56 PM

appletsauce

Jun 22 2010, 08:45 PM

I think Wild Arms is a great game for the top list, and it's not so popular that it would win by default. I think it's a great game, great soundtrack, 2D graphics in-game and 3D in battle, kind of best of both worlds. Story is OK. But the part that's really fun about the game is the tool system. You gather tools in dungeons, labyrinths, etc., and each person in your group has a set of tools. Most of the fun in the game is figuring out how to use your tools to get through each dungeon. You can also use your tools most anywhere except the overworld. A truly great game I recommend to anyone. If you've got any Playstation or PSP, I recommend getting the disc and/or downloading it from PSN (only $5.99). It's truly an overlooked masterpiece.

I seriously SERIOUSLY hope you are trolling right now because right now I am worried. Wild arms doesn't belong on this thread let alone in a top 100 thread even it is a great game in your opinion or others it just...nm got to learn not to feed the trolls.

As for Pokemon, there might be an argument there.

pokemonzrpg

Jun 23 2010, 03:09 AM

Richard

Jun 23 2010, 02:09 AM

pokemonzrpg

Jun 22 2010, 11:47 PM

NinjaPenguin8969

Jun 22 2010, 09:27 PM

I'd say Halo. Microsoft probably would not be in the video game business still if it wasn't for the incredible success of the Halo franchise. It's also right up there with GoldenEye and Perfect Dark when it comes to making console FPS games popular, and Halo 2 set the standard for online gaming on consoles.

Oh please don't consider Halo for the list. It really doesn't compare to Goldeneye 007 as far as revolutionizing goes, and I think the series as a whole is overrated. Don't kill me because I speak the truth!

I am one of those who takes the view that Halo is not overrated atleast for the first two. The first one pretty much single handedly kept a system alive and pushed it and the second revolutionized console online gaming.

Halo 1 in my opinion was a better game than golden eye time considerations considered. Golden Eye in many ways is a bundle full of memories and times with friends, but really analyze the flaws of the game and you will see that they are there and there are plenty.

There are many people who hate on Halo, but you can thank Halo 1 for better or worst for jump starting the fps craze to new huge levels and halo 2 for setting the stage for new age console online gaming(you can thank Socom for part of that also).

Halo>Half life and Golden Eye.

Yes, but also keep in mind that Halo also kicked off milking franchises so much. I just don't see much of any differences within each of the Halo games' releases.

And if it weren't for Goldeneye, Halo wouldn't be what it is today.

DizzyDial

Jun 23 2010, 11:40 AM

pokemonzrpg

Jun 23 2010, 03:09 AM

Richard

Jun 23 2010, 02:09 AM

pokemonzrpg

Jun 22 2010, 11:47 PM

NinjaPenguin8969

Jun 22 2010, 09:27 PM

I'd say Halo. Microsoft probably would not be in the video game business still if it wasn't for the incredible success of the Halo franchise. It's also right up there with GoldenEye and Perfect Dark when it comes to making console FPS games popular, and Halo 2 set the standard for online gaming on consoles.

Oh please don't consider Halo for the list. It really doesn't compare to Goldeneye 007 as far as revolutionizing goes, and I think the series as a whole is overrated. Don't kill me because I speak the truth!

I am one of those who takes the view that Halo is not overrated atleast for the first two. The first one pretty much single handedly kept a system alive and pushed it and the second revolutionized console online gaming.

Halo 1 in my opinion was a better game than golden eye time considerations considered. Golden Eye in many ways is a bundle full of memories and times with friends, but really analyze the flaws of the game and you will see that they are there and there are plenty.

There are many people who hate on Halo, but you can thank Halo 1 for better or worst for jump starting the fps craze to new huge levels and halo 2 for setting the stage for new age console online gaming(you can thank Socom for part of that also).

Halo>Half life and Golden Eye.

Yes, but also keep in mind that Halo also kicked off milking franchises so much. I just don't see much of any differences within each of the Halo games' releases.

And if it weren't for Goldeneye, Halo wouldn't be what it is today.

I think you're just looking for flaws because you hate the modern-day H3 fans going 't3h b3st ga3m 3vaRR1!!11.' I agree with Richard, Goldeneye is sacred because of the memories, not the flawless gameplay (because it wasn't that...). Halo 1 single-handedly launched the console shooter into the realm of possibility and perfected it. Think about the dual-analog dominance in 80% of games today- yeah Halo brought that about. Halo 1 may not be in the top 10 best games of all time, but it sure deserves the mention because of what it did for the industry.

DizzyDial

Jun 23 2010, 11:35 AM

Richard

Jun 22 2010, 08:56 PM

appletsauce

Jun 22 2010, 08:45 PM

I think Wild Arms is a great game for the top list, and it's not so popular that it would win by default. I think it's a great game, great soundtrack, 2D graphics in-game and 3D in battle, kind of best of both worlds. Story is OK. But the part that's really fun about the game is the tool system. You gather tools in dungeons, labyrinths, etc., and each person in your group has a set of tools. Most of the fun in the game is figuring out how to use your tools to get through each dungeon. You can also use your tools most anywhere except the overworld. A truly great game I recommend to anyone. If you've got any Playstation or PSP, I recommend getting the disc and/or downloading it from PSN (only $5.99). It's truly an overlooked masterpiece.

I seriously SERIOUSLY hope you are trolling right now because right now I am worried. Wild arms doesn't belong on this thread let alone in a top 100 thread even it is a great game in your opinion or others it just...nm got to learn not to feed the trolls.

As for Pokemon, there might be an argument there.

Don't attack him. I guarantee anyone who's played the original on this forum considers it a great game and even if it's not top 10 material then prove reasons against it, or at least communicate that you think other games are more important, rather than just be an asshole and scoff. You just discouraged everyone from commenting their opinions on the thread- and no bias? Do you realize that everyone (yourself included *GASP) has bias? Or are we supposed to mindlessly sit here and talk about the top 10s from various sites and magazines and chalk it up to the 'we agree with everything' category?

TheCompletionist

Jun 23 2010, 03:11 PM

Well I've had some time to think about it and see some of the other responses in the thread. I think its very important that we should avoid incoporating multiple games of the same genre unless, they've had a profound impact not on the genre itself, but to video gaming in general.

Also as I'm seeing more and people's responses, I need Richard to elaborate on the title a bit more. When I see the title for top ten games ever, I either think one of two things.

1.) The top ten games in terms of entertainment/nostalgia value

or

2.) The top ten games that defined the video game industry

I'm seeing that contrast especially with some of the games that people are mentioning. I think it needs to be made perfectly clear, in what context your asking for the top ten games ever.

I think any game you have to consider especially for a top ten list, is the games that led to the ESRB which was a major event for the video game industry. Games such as Night Trap, Mortal Kombat, Doom, and Lethal Enforcers which led to the implementation of the ESRB.

I'll take something back, maybe Doom should be known as the greatest first person shooter for what it did to the genre, but should it be known for being one of the key games that led to the implementation of ESRB.

I said time and time again, I'm not a fan of first person shooters, never have been, never will be so my knowledge is fairly limited at best. In regards to Doom, I accept the software for being one a kind, and that a lot of games afterwards were considered doom clones, and that in itself should deserve a spot on the list.

On the other hand, I can't really seemsomething like Doom lay the groundwork for survival horror all the same. From my personal opinion, a game such as Resident Evil truly defined and perfected the concept of survival horror, especially when it came to music, atmosphere and unpredictability.

Does a game such as Resident Evil deserve a spot on the list, maybe - maybe not. The survival horror genre really took off once Resident Evil came into play.

Anyway lets get to more games that should be considered on the list:

1.) Everquest Online - World of Warcraft: Take your pick, one game launched mmorpgs and the other perfected it, and obviously has a wider and broader audience. I would think World of Warcraft is the more important mmorpg, and it is such an important cultural phonomenom in gaming and you can't be ignorant towards how much appeal it has to gamers. It pains me to say it, but I hate the game because I've seen three friends lose their social lives and professional lives to this fucking game, but I can't ignore the importance it has on present day gaming.

2.) Pong: The genesis of gaming, everything with regards to video gaming slowly comes that one little arcade machine that got released in California in the 1970's. There is not much to say about this game, maybe the game itself may not be garded as one of the best ten games ever, but still the one that started it all.

3.) Street Fighter II or Mortal Kombat: One game defined a genre, one game helped shaped the video game indstury. Based on those two games which game should be held in higher regard. On one hand, you had Street Fighter that pretty much defined the fighting game genre, and even to this day it is a loved and frequently played fighter despite all the sequels that has ever come out for this game. Mortal Kombat, while suffering from so many lackluster sequels, helped pave the way for video game violence in games. With the establishment of the ESRB, it was one of the first fighting games that involved killing your opponent in gruesome ways, and the Mortal Kombat will be a game that will always be defined by its violence through the way of fatalities.

4.) Dance Dance Revolution

I know the first thing your going to say. That it is a joke entry, and you got to be kidding, but just give me a second. The most unusual thing concerning this game is that just like how Starcraft deserves to be on this list, since it is the definitive RTS and that it is even a televised sport in South Korea.

The same actually goes for DDR since it is actually considered a televised sport in Norway. In the late 1990's arcade's were not as popular as they once were in the 1980's to the mid 1990's. The game in itself popularized the music game genre that has taken such a strangle hold on both the hardcore and casual gamers today.

In all honesty I don't want to turn this into a Bemani vs. Activision thread because its not. DDR made the arcade scene popular again. It was so successful that DDR got implemented into elementary school fitness programs all across the US. All these games such as Wii Fit, and other games that used outside peripherals, to use gaming for exercise can pretty much thank DDR for starting the trend.

It may not be a game for everybody, which I'll be the first one to admit, but for popularizing the gaming exercising genre, and for pretty much starting the gaming music genre might deserve a spot on this, but to be honest I wouldn't place it no higher than 9th or 10th.

Others that should be considered:

I'll make it brief

1.) Pokemon Red/Blue for catering an rpg to kids, that adults can enjoy as well. Alos, really highlighting the completionist aspect of gaming. Gotta Catch'em all, pretty much the key phrase in that game series.

2.) Halo: For popularizing the multiplayer online aspect of first person shooters, and making it such a mainstay for any and all FPS.

3.) Starcraft - The prime definition of an excellent RTS that despite being quite old, still holds the heart of many gamers today.