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| Halo is Overrated; Who else thinks so? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 24 2010, 12:07 PM (2,573 Views) | |
| pokemonzrpg | Jun 24 2010, 12:07 PM Post #1 |
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Alright, alright, don't shoot me just yet. Here's my little story. Only last year I first got an Xbox and Xbox 360, and everyone got me so hyped up to play the Halo games, I just couldn't take it anymore. I eventually received Halo, Halo 2, and Halo 3 in various ways (although the original never worked). I immediately popped in Halo 2 and I found it to be alright. At first I thought, This is what everyone has been telling me about? This is it? I was extremely disappointed, but I still had hope. Later after that, I got Halo 3 soon after I got my 360. Now I had myself convinced this was going to be great. It was what everyone at school was playing, so I only assumed it would make some major improvements from the second. Right as I popped the game in and went on to campaign mode, I found myself getting bored for whatever reason. Then I realized I hadn't tried online multiplayer yet. I quickly tried it out and got bored of it as quickly as I started playing it. Now I know this game has a lot of appeal. Another one of my best friends is in love with the series, but I just don't get it. I admit I really liked the use of vehicles in the game, but nothing else sparked with me in that game. Maybe it's just me, but I found Halo to be highly overrated. Maybe it was because of how hyped up it was that ruined the experience for me. Maybe I just prefer CoD's style of gameplay more. I am not sure why, but ever since I was disappointed in Halo 2 and 3, I have not liked Microsoft as much as I probably should. I mean, supposedly one of their best exclusives, was now one of my least favorite and IMO overrated games of this generation. Does anyone else think so? I know there are a lot of Halo fans here and that is completely reasonable, but I just don't get it. Opinions? |
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| Andsy | Jun 24 2010, 12:12 PM Post #2 |
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Good post lad, stepping round the landmine of OMG FLAMEBAIT cautiously. Halo is overrated, and the series hasn't progressed since the first title. Combat Evolved was alot of fun, but Halo 2 and Halo 3 were just stale. It's just people boarding the hypetrain of marketing and muppetsheep mentality. |
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| Scott | Jun 24 2010, 12:30 PM Post #3 |
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You're overrated.  I personally loved all of the Halo games, but I never really played the campaign. Instead I simply play online. Personally I think COD is overrated and Halo deserves the recognition (most of it...just not the fanboys who don't even consider getting a PS3 or Wii because it doesn't have Halo), but it all boils down to personal preference. Sometimes you just have to ignore hype on FPS games, because it has a history of disappointing gamers. |
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| bediger | Jun 24 2010, 12:36 PM Post #4 |
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Saying Halo is overrated is a bit like saying water is wet. I like to think that the majority of people understand this. |
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| NinjaPenguin8969 | Jun 24 2010, 12:49 PM Post #5 |
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I like it because anyone can pick it up and start playing it quite easily, the Theater system is something that I think every multiplayer game should have (especially Battlefield), 4 player co-op, you can take friends via splitscreen with you online, and it's not filled with campers. It also doesn't rely on getting care packages, and isn't filled with glitches like MW2 is. |
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| bediger | Jun 24 2010, 01:02 PM Post #6 |
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Correct me if i'm wrong but the first Halo didn't have multiplayer? Soooo, the campaign was the only thing to play? |
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| pokemonzrpg | Jun 24 2010, 01:05 PM Post #7 |
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I'm not saying the Halo games are bad (even though I don't like them), but some people put them off to be some of the greatest FPSs of all time, which is, IMO, a little ridiculous. You all have to admit that Halo games aren't that good and are indeed quite overrated. |
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| eSkilliam | Jun 24 2010, 01:06 PM Post #8 |
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I don't think so at all. I've loved every Halo game that's come out. (I haven't played much of Halo Wars, but that's different) I'm no good at them, but I'll still spend hours playing. They just have a feel to them that no other FPS games do. They might not be what you like playing, but I would think saying that they are over-rated is a bit much. And people keep saying that there's been no advancement in the series, but there are many additions to the gameplay in every game. If they changed it too much it wouldn't rightly be a sequel. And unlike some other games out there, multiplayer maps from previous games in the series have been brought back due to the demand for them, not just to make a quick buck. **Cough MW2 Cough** And I'm not saying that I don't love MW2 because I do, but they are completely different games, and I play the multiplayer for each game for different reasons. If it was truely over-rated, the series would have died out by now due to lack of interest. People love halo, and they have a great mechanic going for the series, that's why the games sell so well. No one walks out and says "Hey, the last game wasn't up to all the hype, let's buy the next one for the same experience." Games sell in high numbers for one of three reasons. 1)It's a brand new game that's not part of a series, that is really hyped. 2)The previous games in the series were really enjoyable. or 3) The game is really cheap, and people want something to play. Just saying that just because there's a group that doesn't enjoy a game doesn't mean it's overhyped, it just means it's not the right game for them. There are just as many people saying the same thing about the MW games, and it's not true in those cases either. I keep coming back for more, because i think they are outstanding games.
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| pokemonzrpg | Jun 24 2010, 01:17 PM Post #9 |
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While I can see why you might appeal to it, I have some things to say in response to that. I have a perfect example of a game series that has been milked and milked and milked, but somehow managed to keep making money: Guitar Hero. Activision was producing around three GH games a year which is ridiculous, yet people continue to feed off of the series for reasons unknown to me. In all fairness, that could be the same case with Halo and why it is still here. While I know that is not the reason, they haven't milked the franchise too much and from my knowledge I believe Reach will be the last, but you have to consider that possibility. Bungie could just be making game after game because they know people will continue to buy games from the franchise even if it is a crappy one they would never expect. While I know Bungie is better than that, we can't just assume that the reason for Halo's success was because it made big changes the game, when it could just be because it never got worse. Halo is overrated in the sense that people call it the best FPS of all time, which is not very realistic. |
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| Lawnboi | Jun 24 2010, 01:46 PM Post #10 |
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Every game as popular as Halo is overated. |
 
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| eSkilliam | Jun 24 2010, 03:16 PM Post #11 |
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Halo CE Halo 2 Halo 3 Halo Wars(not even FPS) Halo 3:ODST Halo Reach 6 for halo COD COD 2 COD 3 COD Modern Warfare COD World at War COD Modern Warfare 2 COD Black Ops COD Finest Hour COD 2: Big Red One COD Roads to Victory COD World at War: Final Fronts COD Modern Warfare Mobilized COD World at War: Zombies 13 for COD Also I seem to remember MW2 getting as much if not more hype than any of the Halo's ever did. So which one is milking the series? Now don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to flame, and I love both series of games, but the biased points that you are giving about Halo stand true twofold to the COD series. |
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| DizzyDial | Jun 24 2010, 03:41 PM Post #12 |
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Halo 1 revolutionized the genre. Period. Console FPS's weren't even really a thing until H1 came along, and not only did it put xbox on the market, but it earned the respect from the early mouse-wielding FPS community. You'd be hard-pressed to find a more difficult and balanced shooter (mainly for 1v1's.) The controls were perfect, the maps were beyond imaginative and it executed what the Goldeneye team tried to, albeit with a little more class and originality. You didn't play Halo 2 when it was big, that's when it was impressive. Online gaming didn't truly exist on consoles until Halo 2 came out. And Halo 3 is extremely balanced as well as far as team games go, you need 4 people who can communicate, have decent shots, run strats, and invent them on the go. I dare you to watch the next MLG event streamed live (mlgpro.com, i'll make a thread when the time comes) and tell me it's not. They made it a sport! The Halo series has perfected competitive gaming. No questions asked. That's their appeal and why everyone holds them in high regard, not for the campaign. |
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| DizzyDial | Jun 24 2010, 03:45 PM Post #13 |
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P.S. I hope you play the MLG playlist when you play Halo 3, that's where the skill and balance come in. Halo 3 (originally) had items and assault rifles and pointless, unfair maps that really detracted from the Halo experience: playing and improving. Few other shooters today have anything like this, anyone can pick up a noobtoob in MW2 and get a nuke, but in good shooters (Rainbow, SOCOM, Halo, CoD2/4...) you get smacked if you're not good. Thus you need to practice and observe and get better. That's the real joy of Halo. They did fix it though, through that playlist.
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| DizzyDial | Jun 24 2010, 03:48 PM Post #14 |
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Yeah, Halo: Combat Evolved did, but it was split-screen, not online. |
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| bediger | Jun 24 2010, 03:50 PM Post #15 |
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What about Golden Eye on the N64??? It was released 4 years before and sold over 8 million copies... i think Halo sold about 5 milion. I don't think Halo was a bad game, although I do feel it was standing on the shoulders of giants. |
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| DizzyDial | Jun 24 2010, 03:52 PM Post #16 |
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I'm arguing that Goldeneye was like a trial period. It was consoles dipping their toes into the water, and the controls were really just clunky. That's where Halo comes in. But yeah, I see what you mean... |
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| eSkilliam | Jun 24 2010, 03:52 PM Post #17 |
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System link too. Halo lan parties were awesome. |
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| DizzyDial | Jun 24 2010, 03:54 PM Post #18 |
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Overall, I think the series has done enough for the entire industry to deserve it's hype. Seriously, everyone here should watch the next MLG event, at least one game- it's quite the experience. |
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| bediger | Jun 24 2010, 04:06 PM Post #19 |
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I think if it wasn't for the hype I would have liked it a whole lot more. |
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| browland1 | Jun 24 2010, 04:08 PM Post #20 |
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From my perspective, Halo is in the same league as Grand Theft Auto - loved by many but overrated in my opinion. I appreciate the quality of the games and I understand why people like them, however I can't seem to get into them no matter how hard I try. I think it's the story and characters - I feel nothing for it and I get bored quickly. But let's be clear, just because a game is considered overrated does not mean it's bad. It's like opera; I appreciate it for the technical merits and I respect why others like it, but I personally don't enjoy it or seek it out. |
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| DizzyDial | Jun 24 2010, 04:12 PM Post #21 |
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I don't think much of it's acclaim or adoration comes from the story though, I think people just adore it because of the gameplay and the whole master chief obsession branches from that. No one played FFVII and only liked the story. It was the gameplay as well (that made it a masterpiece), and Cloud was the center figure, therefore he receives the hype and legacy. Edited by DizzyDial, Jun 24 2010, 04:14 PM.
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| DizzyDial | Jun 24 2010, 04:17 PM Post #22 |
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Perfect example of why Halo is so loved: this is in the championship round of an MLG event for Halo 2, Final Boss (Walshy's team) competing against one of the best teams in the world. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVWWDO6WqXc I'm not trying to be stubborn, I realize a lot of people just don't like Halo, but I think you guys are misinterpreting why it has such an amazing and devoted fan base. Edited by DizzyDial, Jun 24 2010, 04:19 PM.
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| TheHBF | Jun 24 2010, 04:19 PM Post #23 |
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This is not new. It's pretty much common knowledge. But I agree with you. |
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| DizzyDial | Jun 24 2010, 04:22 PM Post #24 |
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I don't think Pokemon understood that Halo has transcended being just a game- it's as much of a sport/community as Counter Strike, or StarCraft in Korea. |
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| pokemonzrpg | Jun 24 2010, 04:31 PM Post #25 |
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@eSkilliam Hey, I may have said I prefer CoD's style, but I never said they don't milk it too. And I never said that they did milk the Halo franchise, I just brought it up as a possibility. |
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