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| Jonny Justice | Jul 2 2010, 02:27 PM Post #1 |
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Just a thought...some of the games I really want, such as MvC 2, and even older games, that collector long for, cost as much new games...yet we make a big deal over the price sometimes, yet we don't even question paying 60 bucks for a brand new game...in the end, what is the difference really, and why do we have such bias between the two? Just a thought. I'd like to hear everybody's reasoning. |
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| browland1 | Jul 2 2010, 02:57 PM Post #2 |
 
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I think the difference is that older games increase in value over time, to the point where the price of $60 or more is justified considering the rarity and demand for it. As a collector, the price is more of an investment in your overall collection than just plunking down $60 for a new game. I have never spent more than $80 on a specific game, but I know people who have paid large amounts of money for one game (such as Suikoden II on the Playstation for $200) and have not regretted it for a second. With new releases, it's different since they are in abundant supply and they games have not been out long enough the be called "classics". Considering that a lot of gamers are not collectors in the true sense of the word, $60 is more than a lot of people want to spend. Having said that, if it's a "must have" game that gamers and critics are raving about, people will spend the money anyway. With new games, there are also plenty of multi-platform titles, which reduces the potential that the game will be valuable one day. That makes it harder to justify spending $60 on a game that you will play, beat and put on the shelve to collect dust. This is why I often buy current-gen games used or wait for a price drop. At the end of the day, you're still paying money for video games. But to collectors, the meaning and context between old and new games is often very different. Edited by browland1, Jul 2 2010, 02:57 PM.
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| DizzyDial | Jul 2 2010, 02:59 PM Post #3 |
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Honestly, I can't explain it. I shelled out 60 for Mass Effect 2 in the blink of an eye, but I'm hesitant to buy like new, black label copies of Xenogears, FFVII, Vagrant Story, Parasite Eve, and many more for around the same price!
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| browland1 | Jul 2 2010, 03:06 PM Post #4 |
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To add to my earlier post, to discuss why people will shell out $60 for a new game and not for a rare classic. I guess new games have hype on their side, which makes people want them more right away. Also, a lot of people buy games for the multiplayer, so there is more urgency in buying the games now as opposed to tracking down an older title. |
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| NinjaPenguin8969 | Jul 2 2010, 04:47 PM Post #5 |
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$60-70 for a PS2/Xbox copy of Marvel vs Capcom 2 is a complete ripoff when you can just buy it off PSN/XBLA with Online gameplay for just $15 bucks. I'm also a graphics whore, and lots of those older titles that are worth a lot have not aged very well. |
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| KingJames88 | Jul 2 2010, 05:40 PM Post #6 |
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It's funny how MvC2 is the only PS2 game I held onto after selling the rest like a dummy. As far as paying 60 dollars for a new game, I try my hardest not to do that, and only do so for releases I'm very interested in for the multiplayer aspect such as battlefield or street fighter. other than that, I do my best to buy used or at sales because I can't justify the price to myself based on how quick I usually beat single player games. |
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| RegalSin | Jul 2 2010, 07:40 PM Post #7 |
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Another problem is that your paycheck is worth more then most games. SO shelling out should be no problem for you. Considering your an PCB, Console, PC, or etc collector. You should decide. Should I get the game for the Console. Should I get the Arcade itself. Should I just download the game and then play online on a computer. It really depends on your personal tastes, What you want from a game being in your possession. Like a comic book. Do I get the hardcover paperback or do I get the flimsy original print. However the hardcover has tons of new material, and information from the creator. However this is videogames. With videogames like take that "House of the Dead' are you going to invest in the original arcade, or the Saturn which has the arcade, and a Saturn version of it's own. Then you could buy it for the PS2, or download it off Wii network. Keep in mind which is more valuable for you. If you just want to test drive it, then download it. If you want to play then get the console game. if you want to play like back in 1XXX years then get the whole ansolata. |
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| Richard | Jul 2 2010, 09:35 PM Post #8 |
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The reason why is that they are openly available games that anyone could easily emulate. The main reason you are buying it is for collection purposes. I mean if someone really wanted to play the game in its original form and not pirate it all you could always buy a rare old game on ebay, play it/beat it and sell it on ebay again for the same price. You can't do that with a new game and you are usually buying new games for the playing purposes as you know once you open it it will be devalued. When you really think about it though, many of these "rare/expensive" games are the same price they originally sold for or even a bit cheaper just not as devalued as their peers. I mean some snes games cost $70 new when they came out and same with some n64. |
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| Porcelain | Jul 3 2010, 07:19 PM Post #9 |
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I have a hard time shelling out such a price say for a classic SNES game that I loved in my youth, but of course is hard to find now. With newer releases you can get the case and manual and of course the disc in mint condition if you buy the new release. With older games, especially cart based games, you are lucky if you find a complete version, and that puts it's price even higher. The sticker on the front might also be worn out with the contact points. You never truly know how much wear it has already been through, that is an investment that collectors have to make with their own judgment. I understand that back in the day Snes games new use to be 40-50 sometimes more, but I don't know, I just don't think it's fair to pay such a price on a game that's over a decade old. Some classics have still the best gameplay and story and unique elements over current gen games. And heck, I'm a big fan of the 8bit and 16bit sprite era and graphics, but these games still lack what we have grown spoiled over in the recent years. Things like online co-op, or a lot of multiplayer, the fancy movie-esque graphics, as well as various other options. Things were more simplistic in that time. Also, these games that you buy from people who price them as such, this money isn't going to the deserved developers, do you see the makers of Earthbound seeing a cent of that 200-400 dollar price tag? No, something about that is unsettling. Yes you can say "yeah, but you buy used games, developers don't see that money, and at some point the makers of those snes games you're complaining about saw that money." You're right! I just feel uneasy paying that price for a few points that I mentioned. Chances are I will be playing my current gen games over the few classic game here and there for around the same price, so I guess it comes down to also feeling like the money went towards a personal fun factor with the game. |
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| eSkilliam | Jul 3 2010, 08:02 PM Post #10 |
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Here's how I see it. I can't see paying $60 for any game that's not new, and don't like paying that for new games. That being said, most older games that you find are used. It's not as bad to pay that much for it if it's black label(or equivalent) and still sealed. Then again, I wouldn't buy that either, because I would never want to open it and take that value away. I want the ability to play it. That is why I can't stand paying that much for a used older game. I usually only buy games new and at $60 if it meets one of 2 requirements. 1) It's something I've really been looking forward to for a while, and I just can't wait to play it any longer, as was the case with Alan Wake, or 2) It has online that I want to play, and I don't want to fall behind the crowd, as was the case with Halo 3, and MW2. Also, I'd like to mention that buying used games online, you are never 100% sure of the quality of the item until you have it on hand, and it's hard to return stuff on ebay most of the time.
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| XxKomebackKidxX | Jul 3 2010, 11:36 PM Post #11 |
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I think 60 dollars is a big investment for a lot of people and me personally. One of the reasons i think people buy the game on day one is so they can get instant gratification, the hype behind the game has been built up, and they wont have to wait months and months for a price drop on the game to play it. I try my hardest to wait for a game to become used to pick it up but there are a few instances, usually a few times a year, where i must buy a game day 1. However i cant understand how some people i see mostly on youtube who buy like every new game that comes out every other day. Its ridiculous. Its like they are loaded with cash or just like to spend money. Which brings me to another point. I would much rather spend 60 dollars on 6 great ps2 games rather than 1 new 360 game. On the other hand 60 dollars on a new game today CAN be justified with its online multiplayer experience. I gladly paid 60 for halo 3 cause of the epic online experience i had with that game let alone the campaign. Players usually want to experience the online at around the time the game was launched so they can experience the online at its full potential. Also i must stress that game prices ARE NOT really going up. Games have always been expensive. I remember snes and nes games being like 50 dollars and up. I remember Legend of zelda ocarina of time was like 70 dollars at release. Go to a thrift store and see if you can find some old games with the original price stickers on them. $30 dollars for an atari game? Yea it happened. |
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| hooflung128 | Jul 3 2010, 11:47 PM Post #12 |
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For me it is all about risk vs reward. I just don't see getting a used copy of a game for 60 bucks no matter how damn rare it is. Chances are I won't play it longer than an hour and then it goes to the shelf of 'to be continued' like all my games except the ones I am in love with. Moreover, if it is an optical storage based game then it means scratches. Fuck that man. If I get a copy of Xenogears I am going to want to look at it front and back before I plunk out the cash. Can't do that online and local shops want ebay price if not more. So while I know if I get a new game and it's scratched from shipping I can get a replacement. Worse case scenario you can contact the publisher to get a new copy in exchange for your old with your receipt. So their is little risk in newer games, if you don't buy on a whim that is. |
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| Richard | Jul 4 2010, 12:18 AM Post #13 |
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That is the part of the fun with collecting. Searching for the most mint thing you can find at a good price. Sometimes you hit gold and sometimes you get ripped off. It is all part of the hunt. Arghhhhhhh! |
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| RegalSin | Jul 4 2010, 12:27 AM Post #14 |
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Don't give in . You know in heart what is true. They have lied to us for the last time. Wake up, wake up. 2d or death. You can use a PC to play all your new 3d games. Rrmember WeaponX. Edited by RegalSin, Jul 4 2010, 12:29 AM.
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| hooflung128 | Jul 4 2010, 12:53 AM Post #15 |
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@Richard I am a gamer at heart, collector second. I only consider myself a collector because I don't sell anything and actively and passively seek games I like or think I would like. I try to get the best bang for my buck cause when property tax and insurance on the cars roll around... I can't afford to get burned at the wrong time. And you know collecting is all about being opportunistic. |
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| Nintega | Jul 4 2010, 01:02 AM Post #16 |
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People would rather pay $60 for a current gen game instead of a rare game from an older console because there is a common mindset among the masses that newer games are "better". Yes Call of Poopy 123: Modern Unoriginally is better than Guardian Heroes according to most people who have to have the latest game consoles. |
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| MereMare | Jul 4 2010, 05:52 AM Post #17 |
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It's funny. I paid $60 Canadian for a complete Golden Sun: The Lost Age (manual, box, game), well aware of the hype for the upcoming sequel. |
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| Richard | Jul 4 2010, 01:17 PM Post #18 |
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Wow, that is a bit much but a great game nonetheless. I personally prefer the original over the second. |
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| notyoursavior78 | Jul 4 2010, 08:46 PM Post #19 |
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Well some older games now cost well over $60. In general I don't buy many new games because a lot just don't interest me much. A price drop isn't always imminent either, but I'm happy with what I already have. As far as the older games that sky rocket in value, I just don't bother much with them anymore. I have enough games as it is. It was usually the Sega Saturn games that gave me the most trouble with the occasional PSX rpg. I was happy to get a used copy of Drake's Uncharted 2 off eBay for 30 bucks used. Especially since someone in the last two seconds put in a bid for 30 but since I put a bid in for 30 about two hours ago, my bid had precedent. I wasn't trying to short Naughty Dog outta money (used game buying seems to be a hot button now lately) it was that Gamestop felt they could sell it used for $55 in a effort to undercut the new sale by a measly five dollars. They will push their used games nonstop even if it is just a five dollar difference over a new copy. And basically I just didn't want to pay $60 for Uncharted 2 even though the first one was awesome (and the second one is too) just for a 15 hour game or so. |
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| sonicguy25 | Jul 4 2010, 09:23 PM Post #20 |
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I think for some people it's because of the older graphics. They think that a $60 current game will be better for that. I ignore graphics I care about gameplay. And usually expensive classics are RPGs that last as long as a lot of newer games which is cool. Gameplay>Graphics. |
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| KingJames88 | Jul 4 2010, 10:00 PM Post #21 |
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Your 100% correct with this statement. Give me a choice between modern warfare 2 and phoenix wright, I'd pick the lawyer any day of the week, even though both games are entirely different genres. I'm a person that considers the high price of a game should reflect something good about the game, and if it's a game that doesn't have a good story or game play, then it better look really really nice. |
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| S1r Panda | Jul 7 2010, 06:58 AM Post #22 |
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now i NEVER buy games from a local store cause a new game will cost around 80 euros which is around 95 dollars. (the prices are CRAZY here in finland) now im not a collector and i would never ever pay more than say 10 euros for a old game. (over 10 years old) |
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| TheCompletionist | Jul 8 2010, 07:26 AM Post #23 |
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I consider myself a collector and gamer to the same extent. It bothers me when I hear gamers say that they pay too much for current games. I specifically remember as a kid and as a teenager that games were anywhere from 80 to 100 dollars. It was because of the sheer cost of video games I was only allowed to buy two a year. One for my birthday and one for Christmas. We didn't have any major retailer in our community, and the only place where you could buy video games was in a glass case at the local pharmacy. I remember seeing SNES games from 79.99 to 105.99. As kid I use to rent video games all the time if I wanted to play something new. As for me being a collector, I have a specific philosophy when it comes to collecting games. I pay for a game what it is actually worth. I don't go out of my way to find insale deals on really rare games. The prices determined for classic rare games are catered to the collectors only. If anybody wanted to play the game badly enough, they could easily emulate it. Games should be not defined by their graphics only, if you think you are a graphics whore than you clearly suffer from the Shiny Diamond Syndrome. To be honest, I'm at that point in my gaming life that particularly new games don't really interest me anymore. My parents were incredibly strict when it came to video games, so I'm taking this opportunity to play games that I've always wanted to play instead of looking forward to a brand new title. A game doesn't have to be new, to be good. I've spent almost $2000 on my sega saturn collection so far, but I'm perfectly contempt with that. Once the collection is finished I'll be playing a lot of sega saturn games over the next year. I'm perfectly contempt with spending the same price or even more for classic games, because I'll probably just get as much or even more satisfaction than playing something new. |
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| Overtimee | Jul 8 2010, 05:39 PM Post #24 |
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It's for one simple reason. You can't get those new Games for cheaper, there is one price, no choice. For older Games you can look for a better deal, and maybe sometimes you're lucky. |
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| Direngrey911 | Jul 8 2010, 06:17 PM Post #25 |
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Exactly! And that's why I can't justify paying $100+ for something that was mass produced decades ago and are collecting dust in someones attic. |
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