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| Greyslash2752 | Jul 24 2010, 01:39 AM Post #1 |
 
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I'm not quite sure if there is a topic about this, but whatever. Now, I really really, REALLY, hate professional video game reviews, you know why? They turn games into numbers, and make people not buy them, and most of the time, they get paid money to praise a game. For Example. I just ran through Alpha Protocol. I really loved it, I found it much better than Mass Effect and Dragon Age, Mostly because the talking scenes kept you guess, and the story was...Actually interesting, something Bioware doesn't quite understand. It also was the only RPG I know of that every choice actually had a consequence, for example, I was given a choice to execute a guy, and being me, I let him live...near the end of the game, he came back with his army and made my life a living hell. But anyway, I saw that Alpha Protocol only got around a 6? Why? It was superior to Mass Effect, and defiantly Dragon Age in every way(Other than the cover system being a little sticky) Then I read on Halo ODST, which as an OKAY game, but had about a 4 hour campaign and Halo 3's multi, and it received a 9?! What are your thoughts on Professional Game Reviews, Personally, I wouldn't mind if IGN, Gamespot, and all the others studio's got lit on fire, but that's just me. TL;DR Professional Reviews suck. |
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| NinjaPenguin8969 | Jul 24 2010, 01:48 AM Post #2 |
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They're hit and miss for me. Typically I go by Shipwreck's reviews, and CheapyD's impressions (and ocassional rare review  ) on Cheapassgamer because they seem to have almost the same taste in games as I do. Aside from that I usually just mix and match reviews from Gametrailers, Gamespot, IGN, and Gamefaqs user reviews to get a general concensus on the game. I agree with the reviewers completely about Alpha Protocol. I thought the choices, and conversation system was great, but the gameplay was complete garbage. It was not fun to play for me at all, and I hated every second of combat that I did. I'd give ODST a 5/10. Worst in the series imo, and not worth owning aside from Firefight
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| Greyslash2752 | Jul 24 2010, 03:07 AM Post #3 |
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I loved the Combat to be honest, They did it that way for a reason, You had to work on your gun skills, and even though I looked like you had a perfect shot, you might now have, depending on how high your skill was, extremely over looked quality of the game. |
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| hooflung128 | Jul 24 2010, 09:33 AM Post #4 |
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For all of Alpha Protocol's unique and elegant RPG systems, it is one of the poorly produced games in the last year and a half. You cannot deny that. It is horrible if you rate it on the combat. It boils down to simple gameplay and stupid AI habits despite the depth of the RPG backed system. I am sorry, I cannot give AP a pass and agree with nearly every single review I've seen for it. Even those that point out and praise some of its systems. If they patch it then that would be great, but I am not sure if Obsidian is going to do so. Their history is pretty ripe with releasing buggy shit and letting the community love, hate it, fix it or forget it. http://angryjoeshow.com/2010/06/game-review-alpha-protocol/ That is probably the single best review on the game to date. |
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| FisHeaD | Jul 24 2010, 09:52 AM Post #5 |
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At the end of the day they're just opinions. You can't agree with them all and you probably have better luck asking a friend with similar game interests to find out what game you might want to buy. I wouldn't mind being a critic and getting paid for it, you can't give a wrong opinion! |
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| hooflung128 | Jul 24 2010, 09:58 AM Post #6 |
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Yes you can. It is called a lack of intellectual honesty. |
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| KingJames88 | Jul 24 2010, 10:05 AM Post #7 |
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I generally use reviews to get a feel for what the game is about and how it plays, then decide on my own if I want to play it. There have been a good number of games on the ds that got very poor reviews that I've enjoyed a good amount, and if I went based just on review numbers I would have missed out on a lot of great games. |
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| Draven26 | Jul 24 2010, 10:11 AM Post #8 |
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I agree to me I just finished Infinite Undiscovery and I thought that it was a pretty good game despite horrible reviews. Same with Haze, it wasnt a great game by any means but it was certainly better then the reviews. it certainly seems like certain games made by certain developers get better scores. I think if you put bungie's name on Haze and changed it to Halo "insert tag here" it would get at least scores of 8 |
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| hooflung128 | Jul 24 2010, 11:03 AM Post #9 |
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Games like Haze, Bionic Commando and the like that go essentially under the radar or given mediocre to bad reviews by a lot of people are usually given by people who either knee jerk reaction to some artificial expectation or they review the game with another game on their mind. Trying to compare Halo 3 to Resistance 1 or 2 for instance. Some people cannot seem to appreciate games that are not their peers that are popular. |
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| Direngrey911 | Jul 24 2010, 11:34 AM Post #10 |
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Well... professional reviews are never really honest or opinionated. One of my co-workers is a journalist and occasionally does video game reviews. What happens is the company gives you a bunch of key sentences, what your opinion should sound like, which audience it is for, and what the overall tone is supposed to be. With that, writing 2 pages of filler is pretty easy, if you know a little technical jargon and current events lingo. I wouldn't doubt if most of those reviewers have never even touched a controller. |
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| S1r Panda | Jul 24 2010, 01:43 PM Post #11 |
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first off i hated both alpha protocol and halo odst and would not give either of the games more than 5/10 out of pure pity. i usually look on many diffrent professional websites to get a general reasoning of whats wrong with the game. i usually look reviews from ign, gamespot, g4tv, and gt. |
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| phatman516 | Jul 24 2010, 06:56 PM Post #12 |
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i thought Alpha Protocol sucked and deserved less than a 6. Every person who reviews a game is giving their opinion on the game. Just cause it doesn't always match ur opinion doesn't mean its a bad review. I think Mass Effect 2 might have the greatest story of any game i've ever played. Dragon Age Origins was also an amazing game imo. and Halo 3 ODST got a 9 because of everything u get, the campaing, the firefight mode, access to the Reach beta, the entire Halo 3 multiplayer, the Halo 3 Map Packs which would cost u $15 by themselves. |
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| Doom_master1122 | Jul 24 2010, 09:00 PM Post #13 |
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Personally. All Reviews suck. Whether it be professional, mine, yours, that hobo down the street. Who ever! Its all an opinion, everyone is entitled to one. What I use reviews for is to under stand what the general public thinks of the game. If most of them is bad reviews, I'll take that into consideration, and still make my purchase. Then I will decide for my self if the game is good or not. |
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| Xsleepyx3 | Jul 24 2010, 09:56 PM Post #14 |
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the cake is a lie to some of the reviews.... as for the others that actually make a good review i give it a chance. its usually a 50/50 chance i might like it. but then i listen to my friends if they have a game then they talk me through it and i base my descion on what they say and what the online review says to. compare and contrast! |
  
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| Greyslash2752 | Jul 24 2010, 11:27 PM Post #15 |
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When you say Halo ODST got a 9 because of all the stuff you got, that doesn't matter one bit, I could hand out Hundred dollars bills with Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hide, but that still doesn't mean it deserves a Higher score. |
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| Greyslash2752 | Jul 24 2010, 11:30 PM Post #16 |
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Yeah The AI was a bit thick, and thankfully, it saved my ass a few times, The cover system was a bit sticky, but what was wrong with the combat? I loved how it made you work on your gun skills, if you knew absolutely jack shit about a Pistol, you couldn't just whip it out and expect an insta-headshot because it LOOKED like your shot was lined up. |
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| metcar | Jul 25 2010, 01:04 AM Post #17 |
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yeah i usually go by amazon,gamspot,ign player reviews especially when player reviews are in extreme contrast to the pro review ie: a game gets a 9/10 on the pro but only a 5/10 on the user review. didn't gamespot get caught kissing some game companies hind end and the main editor at the time got fired cause he wouldn't play along?
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| DizzyDial | Jul 25 2010, 01:23 AM Post #18 |
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Obviously, you've never seen what Ebert has to say about video games... |
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| MuayThaiNinja | Jul 25 2010, 01:31 AM Post #19 |
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I also pay more attention to user scores than professional scores. There was a game out not that long ago... I think it was Command and Conquer 4, and on gamespot it has a 7/10, but the user score is around 3.5/10 with almost 2,000 votes. That's half the score of GS. And usually players are far more forgiving than critics. So something is fishy there. But still, most of the time i can say professional scores are about right, and ive never believed that 6/10 is all that bad, just means you should read the review fully and take note of all the positive and negative elements and decide if it's worth it to you. That's how i made the decision to buy Alpha Protocol, which i dont regret. |
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| hooflung128 | Jul 25 2010, 10:23 AM Post #20 |
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The visual combat doesn't match up with the dice rolling in the back ground. Instead of giving the targeting reticle a slight shake once you scope in on the enemy to a firm aim to denote the skill or lackthereof with the weapon you use, Alpha Protocol wraps a seemingly straight forward 3rd Person shooter around dice rolls with nothing but visual fustration. How can a player not think to themselves that this breaks the immersion. And let us not forget the AI and bugs? Did you watch Angry Joe's video review? It pretty much spells out what is wrong with the game. Not only that, how the game could have been a 10/10 with a lot more polish. It was a rental for me. I won't touch it again until its 19.99 and I see there are major patches. Unless, like Obsidians's prior work... the community rally's around the PC version and community pack it. Then I might get it through Steam. |
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