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"cyberbullying" wait, what?
Topic Started: Jan 27 2011, 08:59 PM (1,993 Views)
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Jan 28 2011, 07:15 PM
People underestimate the impact of cyberbullying because the stigma is that it's not violent and it can be avoided by turning off the computer. Wrong. We live in an age where our entire lives are online and this is especially true for teenagers. Bullying can include spreading rumors, provoking conflicts and making threats that can be carried out in real life. I never had to deal with this, fortunately, since I was in school at a time when the internet was relatively new, but it's a big problem today.

Personally, I blame the parents of the kids doing the bullying and the parents of the victim who don't do anything about it. Kids today are miles ahead of their parents in terms of computer literacy, which is why they need to get educated and ensure that the internet they provide to their kids is being used responsibly. If I was a parent and I found out my kids were using the internet I pay for to bully others or troll the internet, they wouldn't be on the internet...they would be grounded and severely punished. Internet is a privilege, not a right, and parents need to get smart and set these boundaries.
Could not have said it better myself. To a teenager, the internet is as important as breathing. The internet was a great concept years ago, and still has helped our society in many ways, but has also led to many more problems, cyber-bullying being included.
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@Creater521 hit the nail on the damn head. Seriously, how many websites have the...................*waits*...........umm...........the *thinks*........BLOCK BUTTON?

@Soawsum Violence is the answer sometimes.

You guys are acting like they should call the police or something. That would make it WORST. Kids these days are horrible. you HAVE to fight back. It's not about being violent. They are gonna test you until you fight back. They pick on you at school, it's gonna carry online until you decide to lay the bully to the groud
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Violence is NEVER the answer. Don't forget that bullying relies on strength in numbers, and victims are chosen because they are either too timid or physically unable to fight back. If someone stood up to the bullies I remember in school, they would quickly be swarmed by others and, to put it bluntly, they'd get their ass handed to them. Added to which the bullying would intensify.

Sorry, but this isn't The Wonder Years where the meek boy, after having his head flushed in the toilet a few too many times, stands up to the bully and emerges victorious. Victims of bullying can't fight back and this leads to the hopelessness and depression, which leads to poor grades, drug and alcohol abuse and, in some cases, suicide. The parents of these kids need to take responsibility for stopping it.
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It sounds like your talking about the school you attended more than in the country. In general terms, bullies can't fight. And strength in numbers doesn't work so good. So you're saying if you were bullied (i doubt you were, but just asking) you wouldn't stand up to the bully? 1st grade or 2nd I had one, and my grandma said either I kick his ass..................or she kicks mine.

The kids liked him so they all had his back, until I punched him. 0_0 after that I learned that even if you lose, (better to win) bullies are gonna leave you alone. Just gotta show them you aren't scared of them. Yes, parents can stop it, but calling your parents make it worst. Mostly for dudes, it's gonna make you look like a punk, and it will keep going.

Strength in numbers only works if your alone, and nobody is around. If you have good friends, it won't happen. "Sorry, but this isn't The Wonder Years where the meek boy, after having his head flushed in the toilet a few too many times, stands up to the bully and emerges victorious." - I've seen it done over the years.

Your right about the parents thing though. Most bullies don't have a father figure around, or a good mother figure. They take it out on people they think are weak. I seen some people who were bullied, be-friend the attacker and are still good friends.
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I like all the posts in here though. Seems we were all raised different, but all know something is wrong.
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The best defense is a good offense. Sometimes there's something you can do, or change, or something else, to not be a "target". A bully doesn't pick people out at random, and I can only assume something about myself, and others that have not been bullied, makes me, and those others, a bad target. I'm not saying someone should change who they are on the inside to please anyone else, however it wouldn't hurt if someone that was a target was more conscious as to why they were being picked on.

I believe it's more than just something simple, because I have an example. In high school I remember kids that liked pokemon, that were thought of as very uncool and unpopular and what not. Never actually physically hurt but sometimes given a hard time about it. Now, at the same time, there were two kids I was friends with that also liked pokemon, however for some previously unseen reason, these two weren't picked on. I believe it had to do more with how a person projects themselves and carries themselves, and how they interact with people socially that really counts. I think they each knew it wasn't popular but didn't care and often even made fun of themselves, and they also shared other similar interests with people in school, so nobody gave them a hard time about it. There was the occasional joke here or there, but nothing malicious.

It's never right for someone to be bullied, but I can't help but feel certain people are really asking for it sometimes, which is sad because they should be able to live their life the way they choose to without a problem. If they can find a nice medium in which they still do what they wanna do, but manage to maintain a confident, socially acceptable image, they can enjoy what they like to and maybe not worry about being a target.
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" A bully doesn't pick people out at random" Damn right. lol

And I agree with you. I remember back in the day we would bring the cards like Yugioh? (spell check) and pokemon. We wouldn't get made fun off, because we didn't give a shit. It's all about how you interact with people. KingJames is right. When you share the same interest with them, they'll actually leave you alone or start conversation with you. I remember back in 8th grade a dude who bullies walked up to me, and asked me about Football, and etc.

Now, me and him are still cool. lmao
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Am i the only one who thinks that alot of the people who get cyberbullied actually brought it to themselves by just being stupid? Im not talking about people who are bullied in real life and then the bullies take it to the internet too but people who do stupid shit online and get bullied and then cry over that.. for example: Jessi Slaughter. I mean sure shes only 12years old and the bullys were complete douches but she should have seen that coming. Not that im saying anyone deserves to get bullied or that bullying is ok.
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you killed your self becuse someone calld you a "fag" or "troll"?


It's A LOT more than that, as it seems others have already elaborated on. While I feel that the media has been quick to sensationalize the issue for the sake of attracting attention, bullying is in fact a serious problem and the internet has given it a tangible element that makes intimidation and harassment that has been going on for ages apparent to outsiders.
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Jan 29 2011, 12:10 AM
@Creater521 hit the nail on the damn head. Seriously, how many websites have the...................*waits*...........umm...........the *thinks*........BLOCK BUTTON?

@Soawsum Violence is the answer sometimes.

You guys are acting like they should call the police or something. That would make it WORST. Kids these days are horrible. you HAVE to fight back. It's not about being violent. They are gonna test you until you fight back. They pick on you at school, it's gonna carry online until you decide to lay the bully to the groud

I don't like that at all. You'd think that fighting back would mean that more people would have respects for you but that doesn't work here. No, you get beaten the shit out of and the typical bullying way is: Giant twat vs small guy who won't stand a chance because the bully is a coward.

One unwritten rule in the school world is never "grass" (Get a teacher or parent involved) on someone which allows it to carry on. I understand that your saying we should deal with these problems ourselves because it helps us in the future in some way.
But I don't think violence works and it will never end well.
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@Creater521 hit the nail on the damn head. Seriously, how many websites have the...................*waits*...........umm...........the *thinks*........BLOCK BUTTON?

@Soawsum Violence is the answer sometimes.

You guys are acting like they should call the police or something. That would make it WORST. Kids these days are horrible. you HAVE to fight back. It's not about being violent. They are gonna test you until you fight back. They pick on you at school, it's gonna carry online until you decide to lay the bully to the groud

I don't like that at all. You'd think that fighting back would mean that more people would have respects for you but that doesn't work here. No, you get beaten the shit out of and the typical bullying way is: Giant twat vs small guy who won't stand a chance because the bully is a coward.

One unwritten rule in the school world is never "grass" (Get a teacher or parent involved) on someone which allows it to carry on. I understand that your saying we should deal with these problems ourselves because it helps us in the future in some way.
But I don't think violence works and it will never end well.
Valet points, guess I can only speak for myself when it comes to beating bullies. And your so right about that rule. I just think in most situations if you square up with the bully you will get respect, and that will cause more kids to stand up to the douche. You'd probably get beat, but he possibly will leave you alone because you can fight back (or tried).

I remember most kids would call the parents, and they would call him a "rat" or something. It was only passable for the girls to do it. Damn kids these days, and their horrible ways.
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well, violence is NOT the answer, just stick up for your self in a non-violent maner, just dont take stuff lying down
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I must say that I really like this recent flow of interesting threads. It seems like we are starting to have a lot more intelligent conversation recently, which I think is pretty awesome. Even just reading all these recent posts has been interesting.

It sucks where we are at today that bullies in my school and many others seem to be getting rewarded with popularity and a bunch of friends, because they do what's "cool." It really is a shame when you get made fun of just for playing video games that seem "kiddie" to ignorant people or for being gay. This kind of bullying carries onto the internet quite often and I find it is a very serious problem most recently because of what someone else said, a lot of teenagers rely on the internet nowadays.
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Learning MMA, or Boxing will help greatly.
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Learning MMA, or Boxing will help greatly.
Better yet, if your one of those being picked on that's good at video games, pick yourself up a copy of super street fighter 4 and get good at it. The bully won't be able to beat you at the game and everyone will be impressed, because that's a game that's widely accepted as being "cool". You just gotta figure out how to play against him where everyone can see, and this way for everyone that doesn't wanna see anyone get hurt, it will be make believe fighting that might shut him up or maybe come to like you for how well you did :) Hopefully he doesn't get annoyed over losing though.
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Wow. There's a whole lot of wrong going on in this thread.

Cyber Bullying never happens on it's own, it's an extension of real life bullying. If a bully can find enjoyment in torturing some poor kid during recess or after school, being able to hurt this kid further from the comfort of their own home is a gift.

It's not usually the victim and the bully, others get roped in, more people, it's like a pack mentallity picking on the weak. Pop onto MSN, bebo, facebook, MySpace, get whoever you can to pick on the weird kid.

It's usually not as easy as just blocking the bully, cos the bully will rope in others to hurt you. It's sick, cowardly and wrong.

As for violence being the answer, absolutely not. A kid can't turn round and deck a bully, whats stopping the bully lying and getting the kid done for assault? Even worse, if it's multiple bullies, whats stopping them from kicking in the kid, or even worse, pulling a weapon?

I practically live MMA, when I'm not training, I'm studying or watching fights. But even my dumb ass knows that all the training in the world won't be able to prevent getting stabbed in the stomach.
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If the bully lies, and calls the cop. The kid will end up being cool. The bully lives from others around him. I mean, the one being bullied can always hire somebody to kick the bullies ass.
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I'm starting to think quite a few people on this forum have a greatly warped sense of life. Some in my opinion ridiculous ideas on how things can be dealt with.
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I have rarely been picked on throughout my life. However when I have been picked on I have found that defending myself was actually the best way to get rid of the bullies. During middle school when I was in seventh grade I got picked on by two Eighth graders during lunch. It wasn't fun being picked on and they wouldn't stop. The bullying lasted for about a month before something was finally done about it. One day at lunch the guys came to my table and continued to mock me... I began to retort with, What I believed to be, Intelligent comebacks. Of course the Bullies didn't seem to think they were so clever and one of them knocked my lunch tray onto the floor and told me to pick it up... I did bend down to pick it up but once I stood back up I was pissed and Hit the One i considered to be the ring leader in the face with my tray and he fell backwards. The other guy proceeded to beat the hell out of me. Within a few seconds the teachers had gotten over to us and broke it up. The guy I hit got suspended for 1 week for starting it since they caught it on camera. I got suspended for 2 weeks for hitting him with the tray. And the other guy ended up getting expelled because it turned out he had a knife in his pocket.
Needless to say Neither of them ever talked to me or bothered me again.

Of course I know that this is slightly off topic because They did not cyber bully me.

Also Personally I believe I went about the whole situation the wrong way and I am sure there were other less violent ways to deal with the situation. Yeah I probably could have gotten them suspended by telling the Principal that they were harassing me but it wouldn't have felt as good... (Except for the bruises I got.)

I don't believe that violence is always the answer... However I do believe it is the answer sometimes.

Sorry for the Long post.

(Edit) Lol I think KingJames Idea of beating them at ssf4 is probably the way to go.
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LMAO^ Epic story. See, even if you lose. They leave you alone. Some of the members act like there are others ways. All of us are from different walks of life. Where I'm from you HAVE to defend yourself.

Yeah, I love Kingjames idea. Or Mortal Kombat :D
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This might not be a popular statement here but I think that it should be mandatory for teenagers to do 2 years of military service. The bullies are taught to respect and the bullied are taught to defend themselves. It's a win-win situation.
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Recently I see cyberbulling on the news at school all over the TV. God people calm the hell down!
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Half of the people, I appreciate the way you would handle the situation. It seems as if you thought it through. The other half... What are you smoking? Seriously violence, and letting them continuously pick on you, isn't the answer. You need to get an authority figure involved, not violence, etc.
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" Seriously violence, and letting them continuously pick on you, isn't the answer."

Ummmm......
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Like I said before, you agree with others or you don't. People handle stuff different ways to get results. Some work for them, while it doesn't for others. The main problem is "bullying" not criticizing other's decisions. Remember we all are from different walks of life. Not like we all went to school together (that would be pretty epic, but not the point).
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