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| Sephiroth13 | Mar 20 2012, 02:44 PM Post #1 |
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Hey guys, I picked up a black GameCube a while back, just because it was cheap. But I now want to start collecting for it. So my question is what are the MUST HAVE games? But also I want games that I'm going to play, so can you guys recommend any good shooters, RPG's (No Turn-Based) or just generally fun games to play. Is the GC a relatively cheap console to start collecting for? Also is the GC region free? Thanks. |
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| MidiPour | Mar 20 2012, 03:16 PM Post #2 |
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Here is some safe suggestions for you. AAA: Metroid Prime Wind Waker Resident Evil Pikmin 2 SSBM (essential, buy it even if you own Brawl) RPG (not turn-based): Tales of Symphonia Shooter(?): Ikaruga Also, check out this thread: petesgameroomforum.com/topic/4723128/1/ |
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| zeonfromhell | Mar 20 2012, 04:29 PM Post #3 |
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I applaud your interest in the Game Cube. It did poorly in sales, but anything will do poorly in sales when you compare it to the sales juggernaut that was/is the PS2. In its own right, it is a fantastic game console. The controller is comfortable and the games are overall great. If you had fond memories of the N64 growing up, you will find some sequels to the "64" versions. Wind Waker plays just like Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask. Some people love to bash on WW like it's ET or something, but it's usually about the cell-shaded graphics (I for one loved the art style) and not technical issues. Game-play and mechanics in this game are flawless. Every Nintendo console has at least one good Zelda game; and this fits the bill just fine. If you like Star Wars: Rogue Squadron, then SW:RS-2: Rogue Leader is the game for you. It combine all the greatness of the 64-title with the improved hardware of a Game Cube. The third title: Rebel Strike, is not my favorite, though, because it includes speeder bikes and foot missions. Alas, the developer, Factor 5, is no longer in business, and Rogue Squadron died with it. Star Fox Adventures...sucked. It wasn't really the space-ship shooter you got with SF64. Star Fox Assault, however, rocked. Although it cotained some unimpressive on-foot missions (like Rogue Squadron 3 did), it's still mostly the Arwing/Landmaster-kill-everything game we know and love. It was made by Namco, and they didn't disappoint. F-Zero GX is a sequel to the N64 release. It's hard as all hell though. Still, it looks impressive and the 60fps frame rate really conveys that sense of speed. These are just a few games to check out. I could go on for hours though. |
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| Sephiroth13 | Mar 20 2012, 04:52 PM Post #4 |
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Thanks, I had some great N64 experiences, so I'll probably check some of those out, also going to pick up the Resident Evils. |
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| MidiPour | Mar 20 2012, 05:01 PM Post #5 |
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I never got to play this because of how overpriced it was back in the day, at least during a time when an abundance of games were cheaper pick ups. How does Assault stack up to Star Fox 64? I was severely disappointed by Adventure as well, it kind of discouraged me also seeing all those trailers and even the demos displaying Star Fox on foot in Assault. At least, Star Fox 64 kept it minimal with 2 landmaster and 1 submarine stage, while being on foot was a simply a multiplayer unlockable. |
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| CarsAndGames | Mar 20 2012, 05:16 PM Post #6 |
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Do what I do. Buy everything you see!! Lol jk |
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| MrTechnoSqueek | Mar 20 2012, 05:36 PM Post #7 |
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| zeonfromhell | Mar 23 2012, 01:06 PM Post #8 |
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Unfortunately there are a couple of on-foot levels, a well as an occasional landmaster stage. However, the vast majority is Arwing stages. The game is about as good or better as Star Fox 64 in most areas and not as good in others. It's very enjoyable and inexpensive. It's with the $5-10 CIB. I would strongly recommend this over, say, SM Sunshine. Also, I would say get SM Kart: Double Dash. It also feels like an improved MK-64. Who doesn't like Mario Kart? |
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| Greyslash2752 | Mar 23 2012, 02:09 PM Post #9 |
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>Wind Waker plays just like Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask >Star Fox Adventures sucked Yeah you have no idea what you're talking about do you? |
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| MidiPour | Mar 23 2012, 05:57 PM Post #10 |
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This isn't 4chan. I love Rare but Star Fox Adventures was really boring, and aside from a couple of things, WW played very similar to OoT. |
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| helsinkirocks | Mar 23 2012, 06:55 PM Post #11 |
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So much hate on awesome GameCube games. GameCube > Your Precious SNES, NES, N64, and Wii. |
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| helsinkirocks | Mar 23 2012, 06:59 PM Post #12 |
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Get all your multiplats on the GC over the PS2. Multiplats should be XBOX > GC > PS2. F-Zero GX Twilight Princess (the superior version, and best Zelda game of all time) Luigi's Mansion Mario Kart: Double Dash!! (Best MK) Any Mario Party. Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door Sonic Gems Collection StarFox Adventures (better than 64 imho, also better than OoT/MM/WW) StarFox Assault (Very good- the on foot aren't bad at ALL completely overexaggerated plays better than Conker) Soul Calibur 2 (best version) Super Monkey Ball 2 Super Smash Bros.Melee (Best SSB) Wave Race Blue Storm Zoids: Battle Legends |
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| appletsauce | Mar 23 2012, 07:36 PM Post #13 |
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Gamecube > N64, I'll agree with that, but definitely not > than SNES and NES. Gamecube was good, but not that good. |
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| helsinkirocks | Mar 23 2012, 08:30 PM Post #14 |
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Gamecube is the best Nintendo console by far and away. |
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| MidiPour | Mar 23 2012, 08:54 PM Post #15 |
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No, you're wrong. Nintendo 64 is better than the Gamecube because of the awesome Rare support. Banjo Tooie > Mario 64 > Diddy Kong Racing > Any Gamecube original game |
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| appletsauce | Mar 23 2012, 09:04 PM Post #16 |
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To me DKC series + Mario All-Stars + Mario World + Mega Man X series + many other platformers > than most Gamecube platformers. Same for RPGs, Final Fantasy 2 + Final Fantasy 3 + Secret of Mana + Illusion of Gaia + Mario RPG + Chrono Trigger + a huge number of other great RPGs > than most Gamecube RPGs (especially Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles), by a very large number. SNES also had some good shooters, although I'd much prefer the Genesis to the SNES for vertical and horizontal shooters. Then there's the one-off awesome games that I just didn't get the same feeling with on the Gamecube. Still good though, but to me the Gamecube didn't capture me in quite the same way as the SNES. I thought the GBA would, but it didn't. The DS is definitely my favorite Nintendo system since the SNES and had that special Nintendo magic to it. |
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| MidiPour | Mar 23 2012, 09:09 PM Post #17 |
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And that goes to show that we all can have a preference. But helsinkirocks, it seems you're out to tell how someone is wrong for having a preference or holding an opinion. GameCube > Your Precious SNES, NES, N64, and Wii. Are you serious? How dogmatic of you for suggesting we're wrong, you couldn't just be courteous enough as to simply state your and why you prefer your preference. It seems with you, you always have to *try* and invoke a flame war. |
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| helsinkirocks | Mar 23 2012, 09:13 PM Post #18 |
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I like Rare- they put out some good games. But to say Diddy Kong Racing even comes close to Double Dash!! is an absolute travesty. Mario Sunshine (despite me not liking it a lot) is way better than DK64. The only genre the N64 has overthe GameCube is First Person Shooters. |
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| Mrkingdomheartsboy | Mar 23 2012, 09:14 PM Post #19 |
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Lets not get into ANOTHER argument please i know this will not end well. |
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| MidiPour | Mar 23 2012, 09:19 PM Post #20 |
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For me, Super Mario Sunshine was an excellent game, I generally had fond memories of the interesting variety of worlds centered around one theme. And I think I overall like the idea of Mario being beside a shore. But I had more problems with the camera in Sunshine than I ever did in 64. There are multiple levels/stars in Sunshine that are irritating to the fact that I feel like they didn't put enough time into polishing the game. As rudimentary as Mario 64, it was overall an enjoyable experience, whereareas Sunshine was sometimes great but other times frustrating. |
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| Greyslash2752 | Mar 25 2012, 02:39 AM Post #21 |
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I never said it was 4chan, and even if it was, they'd tell you how wrong you are as well. WW played nothing like the original 3D Zelda's, and thus, was shunned and pushed away by hardcore fans of the N64 classics. Also, Starfox Adventures was by far one of the best Starfox games to date. |
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| salmon_lox | Mar 29 2012, 01:56 AM Post #22 |
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Looks like you've already got a bunch of good responses, but I'll throw my two cents in, as I was in your shoes several years ago. Sorry if this turns out far too long... If you're just starting out with the Little Cube That Could, I would suggest 2 games: Super Smash Bros. Melee Super Monkey Ball 2 These are both amazing, fun, original, deep games that have nearly endless replay value. They have awesome single player content- Melee is a fighter/beat-em-up with tons of modes, mini-games, and gameplay variations; Monkey Ball is a "Marble-Madness" puzzler that will cook your brain and piss you off in all the right ways- but also double as amazing multiplayer party games. Seriously, I would say these two are the best 4-player games you could have for the console. They'll keep you occupied for months and months. And yes, I insist on Monkey Ball 2 over the original, as it is a much more polished and fun game (though the original is no slouch). Now, delving into games that are great for single player alone, I would recommend Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, Metroid Prime (both are good, but start with 1; 2 is really tough and a bit alienating) and Resident Evil 4. All stellar games, all the top of their respective genres. People will tell you to skip Wind Waker, usually citing the "kiddie" graphics, but trust me, those people are idiots. You can try Twilight Princess, I personally haven't played it yet so I have no opinion, but all signs point to it being awesome as well. If it's an RPG you're looking for, I recommend Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door. Again, some people are turned off by the "goofy" atmosphere of the game, but to do so is to miss out on a hilarious, surprisingly involving, challenging adventure starring the mascot of Nintendo. Full disclosure, it IS a turn-based RPG, but it is like no other turn-based RPG I've ever played; it's closer to an action-RPG in design and embraces a platformer aesthetic (as tribute to Mario's roots), even during battle. Quite clever, really. Speaking of platformers, it's another oft-ridiculed title, but Super Mario Sunshine is the best the cube has to offer in straight-up 3D platforming (although Prince of Persia is another great title, embracing more of a parkour approach). Though it has some annoying presentation (the voice acting is horrid, and the attempt at a story is laughable and completely unnecessary), it improves on the greatness of Super Mario 64 in many ways, and can be tons of fun. Don't pass this one up. A few more favorites: Soul Calibur 2- if you're a fighting fan, but balk at the concept of Smash Bros Melee, first of all, what the hell is wrong with you? Secondly, try this title out. It's a more traditional fighter, with combos, one-on-one strategy, and a lifebar. The fighting system is quite deep (I still haven't explored all the nuances of it- it takes a bit of commitment), and there is a fair amount of modes and replay value. Ikaruga- when you asked for "shooters", I'm unclear if you meant first-person shooters or shoot-em-ups. I'm no expert on the former (though I would recommend Timesplitters 2), but when it comes to shoot-em-ups on the cube, get Ikaruga. It is a unique experience, and the best of the genre, in my opinion. Your ship can change colors to absorb enemy bullets of the same color- and you're going to have to, to survive. The gameplay is stripped down to its bare roots- there are no powerups or secondary weapons to be had, just your standard cannon and a supercannon- but it is by no means simple or easy. The only drawback is that it is an elusive and fairly expensive title (compared to the others on this list, anyway) Pikmin/Pikmin 2- a pair of oddballs, a cross between Lemmings and a Real Time Strategy game. This one can't be quite be explained, it just has to be played. It's original and quirky, and I love it. While the sequel is superior in every way, it's tough to recommend, as it is, again, elusive and expensive. Try out the original. 007: Everything or Nothing- my favorite James Bond game. The production values are insane, the gameplay is great and fun, and there is tons of variety, with vehicle missions, stealth sections, and all-out mayhem action. There is a great 2-player cooperative mode, but other than that the multiplayer is rather paltry, especially if you're expecting something on the level of Goldeneye on the 64. Check the other Bond games on the cube for that. Mario Kart: Double Dash!- it seems to be blasphemy to say it these days, but this is my favorite Mario Kart entry (maybe; Mario Kart DS edges it out just slightly). I know MK 64 is remembered fondly, but trust me, go back and try those tracks now, and you won't believe how unbelievably long and boring most of them are. MKDD improves on that, with some of the best tracks in the series (Baby Park and DK Mountain are favorites). The 2-person, 1-cart mechanic isn't implemented very effectively, and the multiplayer is hurt by one simple thing- no Grand Prix with 3 or more players! But otherwise, this is a solid Kart racer. Finally, to answer your question, YES, the GameCube is a very inexpensive console to collect for. Luckily, it's at that perfect stage right now; old enough to not be hit with premium new release prices, but not old enough to be considered "classic" just yet, and all its games snatched up by collectors. The disc format also helps keep the prices down. With the exception of Pikmin 2 and Ikaruga, and depending where you get it, Wind Waker, all the games I've mentioned can be found for $15 or less, with many of them- Metroid Prime, Super Monkey Ball 2, Everything or Nothing, Soul Calibur 2- available for rock-bottom prices, about $5 or less. Keep an eye on your local GameStop (never thought I'd recommend those words!), as come April they're going to stop accepting GameCube trade-ins, and will likely offer some 2-for-1 deals and sales. And no, the Game Cube is not region-free. Well, that's it. Sorry to talk your ear off, and I hope this helped |
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| salmon_lox | Mar 29 2012, 02:09 AM Post #23 |
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Also, all you guys trading barbs over Star Fox Adventures are just being silly. No, it's not a "horrible" game, and no, it's not the "best Star Fox game", either. You're not even comparing apples and oranges; you're comparing apples and corkscrews. They not even in the same genre. It's a completely unique specimen; it began development as an unrelated game called Dinosaur Planet. It's something of a Zelda clone and a great game in its own right. It, however, had the misfortune of having the Star Fox license slapped on it, disappointing fans of that series expecting a traditional flight simulator, and appearing quite bizarre in general. But to say it "sucks" because it's such a different game- while not evaluating the game on its own merits- is like saying you hate the Donkey Kong Country games because they're nothing like the original Donkey Kong arcade game, or like saying you hate Mario Kart because it's nothing like Super Mario World, Mario Bros 3, or any of the Mario games that came before it. And saying it's the "best" game for the opposite reasons is just ridiculous. They're not even comparable. I happened to enjoy it, as it is a great adventure game. But it has next to nothing to do with the Star Fox flying shooter formula that fans know and expect. That is its only flaw. |
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| sdcpro | Mar 29 2012, 02:23 AM Post #24 |
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Mario Sunshine was great to me. I loved the environments as they always felt so vacation-y. I even went back and replayed it about 4 months ago and still felt the same. There was some slight camera issues I faced, but nothing that really got too in the way, too often. I played Star Fox adventures as a kid and felt that it was lacking something. I never went back to try it again but I did feel that I was "wasting my time" as it wasn't a traditional Star fox game lol. It's a horrible way to think of it but hey, I was a kid. I do plan on giving it another shot one of these days and I'm really fond of what it started out as. Not sure if someone else has answered your question, but the gamecube is not region free. It can also be a cheap console to collect for at the moment, however some games may go up in value now that Gamestop stopped taking them in. Some games I would recommend: Zelda Four Swords Mario Sunshine Mario Kart Double Dash Zelda Collector's Disc (great compilation) Zelda Wind Waker Zelda Twilight Princess Pikmin 1 & 2 Cubivore (quirky awesome game) Animal Crossing Luigi's Mansion Simpsons Hit & Run Wave Race Wario World F-Zero GX Viewtiful Joe One Piece Grand Battle & Grand Adventure (easy fun fighting games) Kirby Air Ride Megaman Network Transmission |
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| zeonfromhell | Mar 29 2012, 04:18 PM Post #25 |
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1. I really felt like I was playing OoT when I played Wind Waker. Sure, the sailing part was totally new, but when I was in buildings and dungeons, as well as the puzzles/mini-games, and most importantly in combat, I seriously saw Ocarina of Time. I also got the same feeling and sense of excitement and frustration when I played it. 2. I'm sorry for wanting a third-person spaceship shooter (with the occasional tank and maybe a submarine) when I boot up a Star Fox game. I didn't want a Zelda-ish adventure game when the name is associated with talking animals flying spaceships and blowing stuff up. How foolish of me. That's also why I'm not as big into Rogue Squadron 3 as I am the first two. Sorry to have offended your god complex. |
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