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Games of war really?
Topic Started: Sep 4 2012, 01:40 AM (9,988 Views)
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This is a bad video. Just bad. Honestly dude you wouldn't be where you are without AGG. Also EVERYONE WHO IS ON THAT PODCAST. I have never heard of your podcast till now and i hope that you stop podcasting and get out of the youtube gaming community. You are all rude basterd's.
Here is a link if you haven't heard it.
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also gamechasers/AGG/Retrohunters,Pat the NES punk, HVGN etc.. I love your shit and you kick ass!

Say what you want to say but I am done with this and i hope we don't see a huge backlash and this is the end of the community.
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OMEGAlomania
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Not entirely sure how this could be taken out of context tbh.
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My opinion on this matter is probably not going to be a popular one.

I think this has all been blown out proportion. Running with the assumption that Gamezofwar said everything his is accused of, in the context that people are taking it, this was a private Skype conversation that was between those present. I've been in conversations with several youtubers who shared some less-than-favorable opinions about others, and that was said in confidence. Everyone has an opinion and nobody is required to be a fan of anyone else. The fact that someone anonymously leaked this conversation, rather than confront Gamezofwar and challenge his views directly, is both cowardly and dickish.

Furthermore, I have seen the comments in the video and in the various Facebook posts. There is a lynch mob mentality arising here, which I also don't agree with. Also, the person posting the videos ("Joseph Regal") is hardly a white knight, considering his juvenile and hate-filled comments on Youtube. This is ultimately a matter between Gamezofwar and the people he allegedly talked bad about. If the AGG crew and anyone else directly mentioned are offended by it, they should talk to him directly and clear the air. I understand the mentality if rallying around your favourite Youtubers and defending them, but the person who contributes to he e-drama is just as guilty as the person who starts it.

That's my $0.02, anyway. I am not putting down anyone or negating their opinion, just expressing my own.
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I just think that its even worse considering he was just on AGG a couple episodes ago...good riddance to someone that two faced...
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Just listened to the audio....pretty bad. But i cant judge him. He should have kept his opinions to himself. I even agree with at least 1 negative thing he said, but man this is a bummer. He should maybe come out and apologize.
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browland1
Sep 4 2012, 08:47 AM
My opinion on this matter is probably not going to be a popular one.

I think this has all been blown out proportion. Running with the assumption that Gamezofwar said everything his is accused of, in the context that people are taking it, this was a private Skype conversation that was between those present. I've been in conversations with several youtubers who shared some less-than-favorable opinions about others, and that was said in confidence. Everyone has an opinion and nobody is required to be a fan of anyone else. The fact that someone anonymously leaked this conversation, rather than confront Gamezofwar and challenge his views directly, is both cowardly and dickish.

Furthermore, I have seen the comments in the video and in the various Facebook posts. There is a lynch mob mentality arising here, which I also don't agree with. Also, the person posting the videos ("Joseph Regal") is hardly a white knight, considering his juvenile and hate-filled comments on Youtube. This is ultimately a matter between Gamezofwar and the people he allegedly talked bad about. If the AGG crew and anyone else directly mentioned are offended by it, they should talk to him directly and clear the air. I understand the mentality if rallying around your favourite Youtubers and defending them, but the person who contributes to he e-drama is just as guilty as the person who starts it.

That's my $0.02, anyway. I am not putting down anyone or negating their opinion, just expressing my own.
Well said Ben, i think this thing has blown up way more than it should have and possibly been totally been taken out of context. If everyone is really that bothered then i think they should wait and see what unfolds and what explainations are given, if any, before blasting him. No point jumping to conclusions.
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MidiPour
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Alright, I've listened to the parts with GamezofWar have to say this: everyone has an opinion. It's not just GamezofWar, it's everyone, everyone in this community has an opinion. Although I believe GamezofWar was being slightly more pessimistic about his opinion, I've heard alot of people in this community say similar things, give and take a few words and euphemisms. And if you know anything about this community, you will know that there is a number of us who suffer from bad days, or don't think about what we we're going to say due to our mood and hormones.
Edited by MidiPour, Sep 4 2012, 10:38 AM.
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ugh this has just become one huge cluster frak of did he mean it or was it in jest and it was all in a private convo anyways i agree with browland on this.
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Person who contributes to the e-drama is just as guilty as the person who started it? I kindly disagree.
Again, this whole ordeal needs time to cool, but if somehow I'm the asshole, so be it.
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He closed his account and podcast.
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AndsyRR
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So I listened to the full thing.

It's a shame that the dude felt the need to talk shit so strongly behind peoples backs, but it is, what it is. I think jealousy has a big part to play in some of their comments, and it sucks for them that their private conversation found its way onto the interwebs.

But, that said. I've talked a fair amount of shit about people before, so.. I'm not really one too judge (too much)
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Sep 4 2012, 11:20 AM

But, that said. I've talked a fair amount of shit about people before, so.. I'm not really one too judge (too much)
lol It's implied.
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I find it funny that Games of War bashes all gen gamers even though he was on it. If you don't like the podcast why are you on it in the first place.
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Sep 4 2012, 11:20 AM
So I listened to the full thing.

It's a shame that the dude felt the need to talk shit so strongly behind peoples backs, but it is, what it is. I think jealousy has a big part to play in some of their comments, and it sucks for them that their private conversation found its way onto the interwebs.

But, that said. I've talked a fair amount of shit about people before, so.. I'm not really one too judge (too much)
We all have! Nobody's perfect! Everyone has their own opinion but I just don't like the fact with if what he said was true on AGG, why be on it then? That'll be me saying I really enjoyed my time doing the Power On Podcast when in all honesty, I couldn't wait to get out of there since I hate it, which couldn't be further away from the truth!
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Sep 4 2012, 12:04 PM
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Sep 4 2012, 11:20 AM
So I listened to the full thing.

It's a shame that the dude felt the need to talk shit so strongly behind peoples backs, but it is, what it is. I think jealousy has a big part to play in some of their comments, and it sucks for them that their private conversation found its way onto the interwebs.

But, that said. I've talked a fair amount of shit about people before, so.. I'm not really one too judge (too much)
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I mean, I know that sometimes depending on who you're talking to, you can sometimes say stuff you don't really mean...but even that consideration given, I don't see how that could possibly be taken out of context. Seemed like a pretty complete conversation. I'm just very saddened to hear this happen in the community...and by this, I don't mean just his trash talking, but I mean the whole situation. Things are just too heated right now. Maybe when the situation cools, he'll explain himself.
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I'm still kind of torn on the whole topic to be honest. I've never really checked out GamezOfWar's channel until this whole drama started, but I understand he was a pretty solid member of the community until now. Honestly I think a lot of people are being too harsh too quick and should give him a little bit of a chance here. Just think about this logically. Does it make any sense for the people on the Cross Platform Podcast to also talk badly about the All Gen Gamers when one of the All Gen Gamers, Pete, is responsible for setting up their podcast forum section to begin with. That means that even though the other Cross Platform guys were there, they must have had something against GamezOfWar because only the people in that Skype call could have possibly posted this to trash his name, which I don't respect. Even if GamezOfWar is at fault, we definitely can't let the Cross Platform Podcast slide under the radar and let them get away with it just because they were less popular and posted it even when they were talking trash, too.

Since this is the internet and we never know the the real truth, we constantly need to give people the benefit of the doubt because for all we know, GamezOfWar might be getting blindsided by the very people he was talking with just for no other reason than to tarnish his name. I hope Josh doesn't just disappear forever without a true and honest explanation because then he might have not been guilty all this time and we would never know! Oh man, crazy drama in the YouTube gaming community.
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If I only told you guys the truth of what is going behind the entire community, I could virtually tear it apart. I keep my mouth shut and will continue to do it for the sake of the community and 99.99% of the viewers who don't deserve to be bothered by this nonsense.

Just remember, that just because we are dealing with games and fun topics does not mean everyone is genuine. People will use you to get to where they want to go. If people have to be friends with someone they don't like to be put up in their channel recommendation page or have a shout out many will do it. If you genuinely believe every youtuber actually cares about their viewers, then ignorance may be bliss.

Like I said, I am not going to share what I know for the sake of the community. I have been in this community, since nearly the creation of it. I have seen channels come and go and I have seen how every channel got their subs. If you think everyone just got their subs by sitting there and hoping people would sub out of their good will because they were viewing good content, you will be in for a shock.

I know who many of the fakes are and have for a long time. Being fake doesn't mean your content is bad, but just remember there are big egos, money, etc... involved. Those things can sadly turn people astray.
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Sep 4 2012, 01:17 PM
I'm still kind of torn on the whole topic to be honest. I've never really checked out GamezOfWar's channel until this whole drama started, but I understand he was a pretty solid member of the community until now. Honestly I think a lot of people are being too harsh too quick and should give him a little bit of a chance here. Just think about this logically. Does it make any sense for the people on the Cross Platform Podcast to also talk badly about the All Gen Gamers when one of the All Gen Gamers, Pete, is responsible for setting up their podcast forum section to begin with. That means that even though the other Cross Platform guys were there, they must have had something against GamezOfWar because only the people in that Skype call could have possibly posted this to trash his name, which I don't respect. Even if GamezOfWar is at fault, we definitely can't let the Cross Platform Podcast slide under the radar and let them get away with it just because they were less popular and posted it even when they were talking trash, too.

Since this is the internet and we never know the the real truth, we constantly need to give people the benefit of the doubt because for all we know, GamezOfWar might be getting blindsided by the very people he was talking with just for no other reason than to tarnish his name. I hope Josh doesn't just disappear forever without a true and honest explanation because then he might have not been guilty all this time and we would never know! Oh man, crazy drama in the YouTube gaming community.
If I'm honest. I'm not sure I can give the benefit of the doubt on this subject. But I feel like this shouldn't have been uploaded.
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Look, the reality of it is, people are going to talk shit. Call it jealousy, call it whatever, but the truth is, no one really knows for certain why he feels the need to criticize. Also, everyone has a right to an opinion, which is subjective, so deal with it everyone. Furthermore, this is the internet after all guys, lets not take it too seriously. For the record, i feel Gamezofwar has some lame videos and opinions on games, so iv'e never watched his videos, but that's just my opinion. Its not like the masses have to take it to heart and abide by my perception of whats worthy of watching. Also, its not like he posted a video up on his channel publicly dissing these people either, so hes not an asshole in that regard. whether you feel hes justified or unjustified in talking shit in a private conversation, its all obsolete anyways, so no defenses or retaliation should even take place. You can stick up for those you look up to, but at the end of the day, its the people who were talked about that should handle it. Just some thoughts.
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On an added note, its also humorous to see how people treat the gaming community like some hiarchy kingdom or dictatorship in which nobody apart of it is welcome to feelings of indifference, with AGG as the 4 Kings that form up like Voltron. As a whole, if opinions didn't exist or were always viewed as unjustified if negative to a certain group of people, I think the world itself, let alone society, would be a whole lot more boring.
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Sep 4 2012, 12:04 PM
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Sep 4 2012, 11:20 AM
So I listened to the full thing.

It's a shame that the dude felt the need to talk shit so strongly behind peoples backs, but it is, what it is. I think jealousy has a big part to play in some of their comments, and it sucks for them that their private conversation found its way onto the interwebs.

But, that said. I've talked a fair amount of shit about people before, so.. I'm not really one too judge (too much)
We all have! Nobody's perfect! Everyone has their own opinion but I just don't like the fact with if what he said was true on AGG, why be on it then? That'll be me saying I really enjoyed my time doing the Power On Podcast when in all honesty, I couldn't wait to get out of there since I hate it, which couldn't be further away from the truth!
so this justifies him insulting people by judging people on there apperences and how they act in there videos
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Here is what I have to say...people just talking about this crap "OMFG GAMEZOFWAR WTF?" its the internet people...Shit like this happens all the time. I am not on anybody's side so if he was or wasn't talking shit...who really gives a shit? Like I said it is the internet. Tomorrow people probably won't even be talking about this.
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