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| Episode 29 - Cat Sh*t Podcast | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 20 2012, 12:26 PM (1,228 Views) | |
| browland1 | Oct 20 2012, 12:26 PM Post #1 |
 
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We suggest you clear your schedule for this one. Due to some changes to the recording schedule, Ben and Andy decide to fly solo and embark on what they thought would be a short episode. True to their rapscallious form, this was not to be. Instead, what you'll get is a marathon episode in which many discussions and tangents were had, and amusing stories involving video games and poop were told. Topics covered include the console wars, the annoyance of fanboys and haters and, naturally, the cat segment. Here's the Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-5zvmj9LTg&feature=g-u-u As always, the iTunes and MP3 links are posted in the video description box. Question of the Week What are your thoughts on the console wars? Are they just an idiotic ploy perpetuated by fanboys and haters, or legitimate competition in which some systems triumph over others? Edited by browland1, Oct 20 2012, 12:26 PM.
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| Darro | Oct 20 2012, 12:32 PM Post #2 |
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Andy and Browland are the sole members of the 4 hour club pretty much!  In response to the QOTW: Short Answer: They're silly and I hate fanboys! There, short and sweet!  Very Long Answer: I have always been in the neutral side of things and just never understood the whole fascination with console wars and fanboys especially. It is perhaps because I got both the Mega Drive and SNES a year apart (Christmas 92 & 93 respectively) but no one around my parts acted the way fanboys did especially nowadays when it is 100 times worse because of the Internet. Fanboys are one of the main things I hate about the gaming industry in general and it comes down to anything whether it is a console, a game, an accessory etc. I do not mind if you prefer one console over another now but back it up with constructive criticism rather than the generic "It fucking sucks because it has shit games or shit graphics or whatever" answer. If you prefer the PS3 over the 360, that is fine. I prefer the 360 over the PS3 because I spend more time on it and have more games for it but I do give my time to the PS3 and Wii as well in terms of this generation's stuff. Each console has their own strengths and weaknesses and has a great variety of games that you may or may not experience elsewhere. What annoys me most about fanboys (but this does not refer only to them) nowadays is when it comes to reviews and pretty much blasting game journalists left and right for giving their beloved game a 8/10 when in their opinion it should be a 9 or more before they even touched the game. 8/10 is considered a great score by most people but to the small-minded out there, it sucks and everything under a 9 sucks and is not worth getting. I don't really go to reviews, as I make up my own mind after playing a game for a bit to see whether or not I agree or disagree with a review but for idiots out there sending abuse and death threats to journalists just because a game didn't get the score they wanted is just plain absurd and pathetic in my honest opinion. Edited by Darro, Oct 25 2012, 01:58 PM.
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| crazykrafft | Oct 20 2012, 12:37 PM Post #3 |
The moral is: You're a total BITCH!
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| J-R | Oct 20 2012, 01:54 PM Post #4 |
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Cat Sh*t Podcast? Are you going to talk about Cat S*** One? |
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| pegasus187 | Oct 20 2012, 03:04 PM Post #5 |
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The Console Wars are idiotic, especially now with games being released on all platforms, even in the 16 bit era it was annoying. It's all about preference, if you prefer the SNES over the Genesis that's your thing, just enjoy the games, do not waste time arguing what's better
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| zaven1718 | Oct 20 2012, 10:11 PM Post #6 |
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The console wars, where to start... I can only speak for this gen but I think they are complete nonsense this gen. I'm a younger listener and the arguments I hear are more ignorant than blast processing. I hear numerous conversations on "why the ps3 is better than the 360" and vice versa. And all the arguments are nonsense. "My system has better controllers", "that game looks like crap on that system", "the ps3's online is way better than the Xbox's that it should be $60 a year as the xboxs free". And the worst argument I hear the most, "the ps3 sucks since it got hacked and its so easy to hack, anyone can do it". I hear that last one a lot, it seems 13-15 year olds think all it takes to hack psn is to download a file off the Internet. And I havnt even started on the wii, everyone I know calls that console crap, "the graphics are bad", "every game on it sucks", and once again "it's so easy to hack the online". My personal opinion is that the ps3 and 360 are pretty equal, I don't own a ps3 but rats only because I rely just started getting into the modern gen. I have nothing against it and plan to buy one in the future, I have a list if exclusives to get for it. The wii isn't up to date but that dosnt make it a bad system. The wii is my main current gen system mainly because I was sick of people saying it sucked and I was backing it up but had nothing to support it with, so I took the plung and found tones of titles on it that are good, I have around 40 games for it and a list if another 100 on my to get list. (I'm mainly on ps2 now so it's not like I'm a only Nintendo came fanboy). To summerize the console wars are stupid, nuff said |
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| XxKomebackKidxX | Oct 20 2012, 10:21 PM Post #7 |
 
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Ben I want to apologize because I think I was that asshole who said "Should have got an iphone" but I can't remember for certain. It was in no way to piss you off but just a trollish joke. I think it was me... |
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| browland1 | Oct 21 2012, 12:14 AM Post #8 |
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Actually, I remember who it was now and it wasn't you. No harm, no foul 
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| XxKomebackKidxX | Oct 21 2012, 12:55 AM Post #9 |
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Lol, that's sad to think that I might have said that. |
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| krull1981 | Oct 21 2012, 03:27 PM Post #10 |
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(Ben if you read this out on the pod please pronounce it ZED EX Spectrum and not ZEE EX Spectrum) The whole console wars thing happened a few years before NES vs SMS although it was micro computer wars in the uk playgrounds at least. You had the ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 and many a playground argument across the land mainly around the fact the speccy had 48k of ram vs the c64's 64k. While i was late to the party in 1986 i was a Speccy Kid as was about 50% of my class the other 50% being C64 kids or Commies as they were refered to. One thing that cemented this protofanboyism was piracy, you could grab any old audio casette tape whack it the double casette recorder and 10 minutes later you had a working copy of a game which was then swapped with another speccy kid for a game you needed which they had pirated. The C64 kids also did this but due to the incompatible between C64 and ZX Spectrum one group couldnt trade with the other so the divide remained. I also didnt know anyone who owned a NES or SMS until at least 1991 mainly due to the fact that the games cost £40 where as a legit speccy/c64 game was between £2-3 if it was a budget re-release or the cost of a tape if you were swapping. I joined the console scene in 1991 with the mega-drive but never really noticed a console war when the snes came out if i wanted to play Super Mario World i would go round my friends house who had a snes and play it and if he wanted to play sonic he would come to my house. While nowadays i own a 360 i would buy a PS3 if they would lower the damn price but for the cost and only about 8 exclusives i cant really find the justification in buying one and this has nothing to do with the minor differences between 360 and ps3 that the fanboys harp on about. |
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| MagusSage | Oct 22 2012, 03:35 AM Post #11 |
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Great podcast guys or poopcast should i say xD As for the question of the week console wars are idiotic, people just do it to get recognized as a important person or get some attention (even if it means to be a troll) i mean what do you get by attacking other people preferences? Or like you say, people want to justify what they bought, "If i bought it, it means the console its awesome" |
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| muragaru553 | Oct 22 2012, 04:40 AM Post #12 |
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Happy I was able to get around and listen to this episode (I think it is due to being put up on Sunday and that my schedule is slowly back down considerably) Once again, I wanted to say thanks to both of you for taking out time in your guys' busy schedules to come onto Power on Podcast:D Though I wouldn't agree with Andy's world famous remarks. Oh, and I can relate to having a squeaky chair. Such a pain in the ass because it makes you really conscientious of moving or at least it does for me@_@ Enjoyed the discussion about the console wars. I will respond to the question down below. Enjoyed Andy badmouthing Bethesda because I am not a fan of the company nor their haphazard approach to the final product and all of the patches. To me, it is lazy. It would be comparable to an author publishing a book with tons of editing needing to be done still. I really liked Arrested Development. I am a bit curious as to what the new movies/episodes the'll have in the future. There's always money in the banana stand! Ben, I think you and I are of the same taste. Frazier is definitely my favorite television show as well. The characters and the acting were done so well. It was really emotional watching the finale. What a great show:D Answer to the Question: Honestly, as silly as it may seem, the console wars are things I actually like about gaming.....sort of. Now, the 360 vs PS3 thing is not enjoyable. A majority of the games cross platforms nowadays and honestly you're more so buying brand/internet services/etc. and not so much the games themselves. Seriously, I had not heard people remarking about the ergonomics of a controller until about the Xbox days because its size. It detracts from what I think is important, which are the games. This brings me back to why I sort of like the console wars thing. Back in the Genesis and Super Nintendo days, you would have people bickering back and forth (Blast Processing, Colors, blah blah blah). However, people actually brought games into the discussion a lot more it seems. It also brings aware to other games that may have slipped through the attention of gamers at the time. I don't know. Maybe, it's simply me ┐(´ー｀)┌ Anyway, enjoyed the episode, though the 4 hour thing was definitely a killer:p |
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| evo4123 | Oct 22 2012, 06:41 AM Post #13 |
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hey guys, really glad the cat segment is back, but i just happened to be eating my lunch in work when listening to it, needless to say i didnt eat much lol. any for the question of the week, when i was growing up my first proper console was the master system, all my mates had it aswel, not one of us had the nes. i loved it that much that i thought it was better than the mega drive and i used to tell my mates that to who had a mega drive. that was the only really war i was involved in regarding consoles. it was only when i realised that i could play an arcade perfect version of golden axe that my opinion started to change and then when street figther 2 came out i held it in very high regard, the snes could not get anywhere near the mega drive i thought. its only now that im a lot ( lot lot lot ) more mature that i realise how good the snes was for the time it was out, and im quite gutted i didnt experience it back in the day. im glad now though that i can show my kids how good the system was and i can enjoy playing some of the games for the first time. when it comes to current gen i have all 3 system so it dosent bother me which one people say is the best. they all bring something special to the table i think. i love the gears of war series probably more than any other series but i wont limit myself to the 360 just because of that, if i did i would never have played the uncharted series or imfamous. uncharted 2 is said by many to be the best game of this current generation and after playing it i can see why it has been said. and who wouldnt want to play the mario games? i love spending a few hours with the kids playing mario cart etc. and just having the metal slug anthology is worth the wii price alone. i totally agree with what you guys said that if you woke up xmas morning and there was a 360 or ps3 under the tree you wouldnt complain. anyway thanks guys |
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| crazykrafft | Oct 22 2012, 01:35 PM Post #14 |
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Loved the 4 hour episode. By the way I am a little hurt that you would think that i would down vote y'all again. If i ever down vote you guys i will flat out tell y'all that i did like a few episodes ago. The cat segment was one of the best yet besides the penis scratching post one. Question of the Week: My thoughts on the console wars is that back in the 90's it was one of the most retarded advertising ideas that the companies had. Really did anybody know what was blast processing was. The majority of the bashing that is done now a days is done by 12 year old kids that just have to bash the console that they don't have just because they don't have it. The only opinion worth hearing is by people that own all three of the consoles this generation and if you don't just keep your fucking mouth shut. As for the companies doing it now-a-days i think that it is justified because lets face it if they were all buddy buddy there would be no new ideas and we would just keep seeing the same shit over and over. Now that i think of it the only wars in the game industry now-a-days is between games series and company's like the Battlefield and Call of Duty last holiday were the developers for each game could not keep their mouths shut about the others games. P.S. Found the only problem with these super long episodes and that is the amount of space that they take up on my MP3 player. Had to delete your first Q and A special and it broke my heart to do so. |
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| NinjaPenguin8969 | Oct 22 2012, 10:27 PM Post #15 |
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Console wars never really applied to me. I was too young in the SNES vs Genesis days to care which was better since every video game was amazing to my young mind, all my friends had N64 so I never thought about PS1, and last gen I only cared about Super Smash Bros Melee, Halo, and God of War. I just don't see the point of defending a piece of plastic, and wasting my time mocking another piece of plastic. Dirty Sanchez. If I don't like something then I tend to stay away from it entirely. I think the Wii is complete hobo asshole (aside from Twilight Princess, Light Gun Games, and Metroid Prime Trilogy) but I do not care if other people like it nor do I waste my time mocking it all of the time. If people like it then good for them, I personally don't like it so I don't talk about it and just stick to the systems I do enjoy which are the PS3 and Xbox 360. tl;dr: tits, and rabid fanboys are dumb. Edited by NinjaPenguin8969, Oct 25 2012, 02:03 PM.
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| Slixshot | Oct 23 2012, 10:57 PM Post #16 |
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That four hour podcast was incredible guys. Keep up the great work! QOTW: After listening to your discussion, my own idea of fanboys became apparent. I find them to be moronic, simply because there is no need for the rivalry to exist. Yes, people want justification that their purchase choice was the best, but the truth is: it may not be. Taking into consideration the different factors such as price, system features, exclusive games and the many subsidiaries to each of those (the cost of online, the GENRE's of games, if it has online at all, etc...), each gamer measures how much each category means to them. Thus, when making their selection by weighing each category, all gamers develop different opinions on which console is best and for their own reasons. |
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| AndsyRR | Oct 24 2012, 03:12 AM Post #17 |
 
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Thanks for taking the time to listen to our show guys, really appreciated. Just a quick question, if we do end up pulling marathon episodes like this one, do you prefer that we release them all as one long file, or do you prefer if we split them into two files? (releasing both files at the same time) Cheers again assbutts! 
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| Darro | Oct 24 2012, 03:54 AM Post #18 |
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I honestly don't mind whatever way you put it up since I listen to it at work anyway! |
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| crazykrafft | Oct 24 2012, 08:48 AM Post #19 |
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I really don't mind if you split it up into two pieces, but I prefer that you keep it in one episode. |
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| NinjaPenguin8969 | Oct 24 2012, 06:48 PM Post #20 |
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Just keep it one episode, and feel free to add books and whatever to your podcast since you mentioned that at one point. As long as there are poop and dick jokes I'm happy. |
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| pegasus187 | Oct 24 2012, 10:12 PM Post #21 |
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Add the Users to that list, because we went 4 hours with Browland, and AGG are in that list as well |
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| MidiPour | Oct 24 2012, 11:24 PM Post #22 |
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Weren't Me and Michael's episode of the Users around that time too?
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| Kharnivore2099 | Oct 25 2012, 10:36 AM Post #23 |
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I admit i was a fanboy as a child, and i still harness some of that feeling today. Being a Sega boy i had to endure a lot of people people telling me the Snes and Nes consoles are better than Sega's own Megadrive and Master System. Its not even as if they thought there was any argument, Nintendo is just better they would say. I still see it now, review sites still claiming SNES or NES has the best conversions and ports, even though they have never even looked at any of the other versions out there. The thing is, i wasnt just a Sega fanboy. I got off really hard on the Commodore 64, Amiga, Atari ST and older Dos systems too so i was usually exposed to most of the different ports as a child. Does that still constitute as a fanboy? I guess it doesnt to be honest, Sega made 2 of my fav consoles but i always had time to be checking out the computer side the games market too. You'd be amazed how different these games are on these older machines, machines that usually have completely different hardware and specs etc. Sometimes these ports would look far better than the others available but then you would realize the sound like ass or play like a brick in a ballpit. I guess that my point is that Nintendo fanboys drove me to the other platforms. My outright disgust at thier very narrow-minded viewpoints and opinions actually put me off playing the machines, which sounds really silly now seeing as i actually like the Nintendo consoles. I dont think they are the best of thier era's by any means but they are good consoles. The Megadrive/Snes war is probably the most obvious one and the main war people will reference, but there have been a few more before that too. For me growing up, i was still hearing the tail end of the C64 and ZX Spectrum war and witnessed a few people barking back and forth about Amiga 500 and Atari ST. They were all great machines to me and i was so young that i was kind of indifferent to the whole thing. At the end of the day though, the ravenous fanboys and the lack of support Nintendo always gave to Europe has always left a bad taste in my mouth and i guess i will always look at nintendo with a slight feeling of disdain. PS. If i hear one more person say "Poor Nintendo" or "Aww, leave them alone" i may have to kill them. They are just as evil as, if not more so, than Microsoft, Apple and Sony. |
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| Darro | Oct 25 2012, 02:07 PM Post #24 |
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Well yes, you can say that but I meant it solely for this podcast! |
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