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Xbox One; General Discussion
Topic Started: May 21 2013, 03:22 PM (5,670 Views)
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The Xbox One thread.
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May 25 2013, 11:56 PM
Oh, and "used games fee" haters please take into account that PS4 has said nothing about their business model when it comes to used games.
Still better than them coming right out and saying it :l It just makes the PS4 look better in comparison. I'm not a fanboy of either as I actually don't like either so take that for what it is lol
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XBOX ONE Press Conference Rant

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As the details of the Xbox One continue to trickle out following the May 21, 2013 unveiling and the subsequent deluge of facts (some real, some not), we have one more piece of information to confirm about the console: the Xbox One will still feature regional locks.“Similar to the movie and music industry, games must meet country-specific regulatory guidelines before they are cleared for sale,” A rep from Microsoft confirmed to Digital Trends.

“We will continue to work with our partners to follow these guidelines with Xbox One.”
No surprise here. Region locks are nothing new, especially for video games. Different parts of the world have different rules regarding what content is acceptable, both from a moral and a legal standpoint.
Brazil, for example, has incredibly high taxes on video game software and hardware.

Whether or not those taxes are fair is another conversation, but without region locks people would simply circumvent the law and order their games and hardware from a foreign vendor. While that might sound like a good thing for Brazilian gamers, it would create mind-bendingly complicated legal problems. All of that can be prevented by a simple piece of software that is already considered part of the industry standard.


Source:http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/microsoft-answers-the-question-of-xbox-one-region-locks/
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Hey guys there's rumors going around that the PS4 might have DRM implemented as well. However there are also rumors that they are watching the backlash of the Xbox One and basing there decision off of that. So I believe there is still time to convince Sony to not implement DRM to there system. here's the link on how to contact Sony http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=568033
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May 25 2013, 11:56 PM
Oh, and "used games fee" haters please take into account that PS4 has said nothing about their business model when it comes to used games. I love all the talk before systems though because all the fanboys (on both sides) are always wrong. "PS3 is more powerful, it will crush the 360!" "The Wii is too weak, it won't sell any consoles!" "Blast processing is..." Nevermind, Blast Processing rules.
We seem to always be in agreement.

@mgfan: And about Sony changing the DRM (if rumors are correct) ... remember they are releasing before Microsoft right? Hypothetically, if Microsoft were thinking about changing all that because of backlash, they will just barely be able to make deadline (maybe). If Sony tries it, if they didn't plan ahead for this and make it so it wasn't essential and could be easily bypassed (which is something I honestly suspect from one side or the other), THEN Sony would have to push back their release date.

Pointless speculation at this point, but I'm bored this morning.

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Does anyone know what will happen if you haven't connected to the internet for 24 hours? Do you have to send the console to Microsoft's support? :/

EDIT: Never mind, it seems like you simply can't play games until you log in again...
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LAME.

Though not unexpected considering virtually none of the things they mentioned in the conference will work the same (or at all in some cases) outside of the US. The 360 is kind of region locked as it is so it's not a huge change. I hope the PS4 stays region free though. It's nice to have the option to import from the US when there are sales.

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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO there is no reason to region lock a console.
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I watched the live reveal and I kind of let the negativity get to me. Used game lockouts this, not enough games that. To be truthful, I think the console has potential. The TV-integration technology is not of much interest to me, nor is the ability to pause your game and order a pizza. It's all about the games. My first mistake was going into this expecting stellar game reveals. E3 is less than a month away and that is where they'll bring out the big guns, so this was simply the first taste of what the console will offer. The sizzle before you see the steak, so to speak.

I'm holding off judgement until more concrete facts are known, including what games are coming out and what the console actually can (or cannot) do. Will I buy it? Eventually, yes. I'm sure the console will eventually have the games I want, so it's a safe bet that I'll eventually jump on board. How soon? Let's wait and see.
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Games, games, and games that is what I want. If the Xbox One provides quality must have exclusives, then I will be buying one.

It would have been awesome if the Xbox One would have offered some sort of streamed cable service/sports package for a reasonable cost, but it fell short there. I wouldn't mind using my console as an entertainment hub, but I want it to be a game console first and foremost.

I will probably hold off on the next gen, but if I were too to decide now I would go with the Ps4. Sony offers the superior exclusives and I am less of an online gamers these days.
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Sony has already stated there will be no always on connection. There will be hooks into the system that will let publishers do what drm they want. They stated this months ago and ps4 proponents already said they, if you call Internet hooligans a they, will vote with wallets per game.

Xbone apologists are 110% intellectually dishonest. Some people who don't care see fancy interfaces, next level graphics and the brand they know. At least the blind are honest. Them fan boys, however, would trade consumer rights to see Sony go down next gen when it is in fact been microsofts goal from day one to black box the gaming pcs.

That is nice and all... But really what franchises are so important that the 360 has? Halo? Really? Fable? Who? Forza? Whatever. Microsoft has been divesting in games except for the dudebros. How many exclusives were on the Xbox on..... Oops... Original Xbox? Tons. It was a treasure trove. Now we have call of fucking duty and forza. and forza 3 is still the true king of the 360 not 4 and not horizons. Gears of war is getting stale too.

Anti consumerism is spreading and skirting the law and in many ways the us constitution, for us mericuns. Microsoft had a wonderful go with the 360 and are using it to pretty much make their dreams come true. Dat momentum. Dat USA momentum... Infecting the world gaming market.

Personally I would buy both systems,despite the media player tv bullshit of the xbone, if they kept game physical copies drm free. I'd even buy digital now and again if the price was lower. However xbone probably is too late to go back on drm, they will push forward cause I hardly doubt EA and Walmart-bestbuy, who probably already drank the coolaide, investested heavily into used game trade in bs already. Sony probably hasn't made any plans yet at retail.

In fact I wouldn't be surprised if Walmart and best buy had redbox like reclamation vending kiosks where you can resell your game to reclaim live credit by returning disks and codes back to the stores.

IMO fuck this anti consumer bs. Fuck this bs when the stores pull the plug it's game over. Copyright law is to protect authors and stimulate innovation, not tell me I didn't really buy something and the carpet can be pulled out from under me at the discretion of corporate America.
Edited by hooflung128, May 28 2013, 01:09 AM.
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Meh, so what if the XBOne is region locked. It's not like Japan would give two shits about the XBox brand in the first place. So there probably won't be any decent Japan exclusives anyway. :P
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Whilst i agree the reveal was a huge dissapointment in so many ways in regards to the used-games situation , i am willing to wait until i know more about the console itself and the games before i write it off like so many have already done so. Although im not impressed so far , its too early to decide whether i will buy the system or not.
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http://www.destructoid.com/xbox-one-games-require-online-verification-every-24-hours-255542.phtml

So apparently Microsoft clarified the X-1's online and used game policy. It requires a broadband connection and must connect once every 24 hours or once every hour if you aren't on your machine.

They also said this:

"In our role as a game publisher, Microsoft Studios will enable you to give your games to friends or trade in your Xbox One games at participating retailers. Third party publishers may opt in or out of supporting game resale and may set up business terms or transfer fees with retailers. Microsoft does not receive any compensation as part of this. In addition, third party publishers can enable you to give games to friends. Loaning or renting games won’t be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners."

They also said the Kinect "listening" function can be turned off but that it doesn't record or upload info.

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http://www.destructoid.com/xbox-one-games-require-online-verification-every-24-hours-255542.phtml

So apparently Microsoft clarified the X-1's online and used game policy. It requires a broadband connection and must connect once every 24 hours or once every hour if you aren't on your machine.

They also said this:

"In our role as a game publisher, Microsoft Studios will enable you to give your games to friends or trade in your Xbox One games at participating retailers. Third party publishers may opt in or out of supporting game resale and may set up business terms or transfer fees with retailers. Microsoft does not receive any compensation as part of this. In addition, third party publishers can enable you to give games to friends. Loaning or renting games won’t be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners."

They also said the Kinect "listening" function can be turned off but that it doesn't record or upload info.

Yeah, still too much unknown, the biggest thing for me (my systems are always online anyway) is the endgame. Once the XBox One goes away and makes way for the X2 will I still be able to play my games? That really bothers me, for the first time I can see a system becoming a total brick after its initial life cycle and I don't like it. Still, like I've always said, I'll wait for these systems to come out and see what's up before I make any real judgement. Sony still has me bitter over making me buy a PS3 for a game that looks like it might be a PS4 title though...
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CONFIRMED:
-24 hour DRM.
-1 hour DRM if not using home console.
-Mandatory Kinect.
-No renting, no loaning. No private sales (unless selling to someone who has been on your friends list for 30 days)
-Internet connection required.
-Trade-ins are up to the publisher and only at "participating" retailers.
+You can give a game to a friend only if they have been on your friends list for 30 days, and then only ONCE.
+Up to 10 family members can play your games from any console at any time? You & one other at a time.

Also, where is the guarantee that majority of publishers won't restrict me from letting my friend borrow it? Or letting me sell the game if it sucks?
What if Xbox Live Servers go down? or get hacked like Sony Did?
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My biggest question is what will happen 10-20 years from now?! Will you still be able to log in or will Microsoft shut down it's servers?! And if that happens will that mean that the whole Xbox One library will become unplayable?!
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I am really glad Microsoft is making it very easy for me to neglect the entire Xbox One until maybe way late into the life cycle. Keeping up with both a PS4, X1, WiiU, 3DS and Vita makes it hard and I prefer my Japanese games anyway.

As it is looking right now, I am missing out on Quantum Break and maybe Forza 5. Hopefully there wont be a lot of great exclusives I am interested in that I will be missing out on...
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My biggest question is what will happen 10-20 years from now?! Will you still be able to log in or will Microsoft shut down it's servers?! And if that happens will that mean that the whole Xbox One library will become unplayable?!
Microsoft will either not give 2 shits and shut it down feeding us a common rhetoric that its for are own good and future of the industry or they will let you do all the games patched out of drm and let you wait until your storage medium dies putting the Blame on us. Nothing else will happen. Your questioning should be limited.
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I do keep my 360 and other systems connected online but the thing is, I can unplug the cord anytime and STILL be able to play games on it!
I just refuse to support that practice, it's so ridiculous! So it's with a heavy heart the I will no longer support XBox One(maybe the PS4 as well) unless MS would get their heads out of their asses and stop treating us like criminals! It's sad because I really do want to play the next Halo game. Also, when this goes obsolete, We would have a usless system sitting in our closets collecting dust and unable to play our games on it ever again.
Now with used games, It's just so needlessly complex and stupid that I just can't help but worry about what lies ahead for the industry.

I'm sorry for sounding so cynical about this but it's hard not to be. I hate the fact that they are alienating us. I have a feeling they will fail unless they get their shit straight.
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The more that comes out, the more disappointed I am.

This system is for the 12 year olds and their idiot parents. It is not for those of us who have been here from the beginning and might also happen to be parents as well. This system is for people who have no idea what is going on in the gaming industry or what is good for us as consumers. The sad thing is, this console probably won't fail and then a precedent will have been set.
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As much as I love Fable, Halo, and Rare's non-Kinect games I will not support this console until their policies change. Publishers can enable me to trade my games...go fuck yourselves. Those games belong to me and I should be able to trade/sell/fuck/lend out, etc my property. I legitimately buy my games and they just took a giant shit on my chest for it. Clearly they don't want my money, so they won't get any. I hope Sony doesn't adopt similar policies or I'm just not moving onto the next generation.

I hope this flops hard at launch so Microsoft is forced to change this bullshit.
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Indeed if anyone want to support this system, then they are part of the problem and they'll just keep making it worse for everybody else!
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The more that comes out, the more disappointed I am.

This system is for the 12 year olds and their idiot parents. It is not for those of us who have been here from the beginning and might also happen to be parents as well. This system is for people who have no idea what is going on in the gaming industry or what is good for us as consumers. The sad thing is, this console probably won't fail and then a precedent will have been set.
Yep, it's a shame they're going the route they are.

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-24 hour DRM. - Don't care - unless it renders my games useless in the future.
-1 hour DRM if not using home console. - Don't care
-Mandatory Kinect. - Don't care as much now that I know it can be turned off.
-No renting, no loaning. No private sales (unless selling to someone who has been on your friends list for 30 days) - Publisher's choice, and it's one of the worst moves ever.
-Internet connection required. - Don't care, I must live in the future because there are a lot of people complaining about this. I haven't been without internet for 24 hours at home in years.
-Trade-ins are up to the publisher and only at "participating" retailers. - Hate it, big mistake.
+You can give a game to a friend only if they have been on your friends list for 30 days, and then only ONCE. - Rediculous.
+Up to 10 family members can play your games from any console at any time? You & one other at a time. - Interesting sharing method.

Although the amount of rage makes me angry, especially the "IF YOU BUYZ IT YOU IZ PART OF DOWNFALL OF GAMING!!!!!" people. If it sucks, don't fucking buy it, end of story. I was hoping to get the next XBox but as of right now it looks like I won't be, even though gaming is a big hobby of mine I've got a lot more in my life to be worried about than freaking out about a system. I've always said that games would go download only or simply sell you a temporary license to play (I think worse is coming, think updating the license periodically), and I said that when that happens I'll stick to the massive backlog I've built. That's one of the reasons I have all these old games. :)

One thing cracks me up though, Steam doesn't let you share games, you have to be online, and there is no used games market. Now I know that's PC but there are a lot of next gen console detractors saying that the new systems are just outdated PCs in a box. Soooooo... then why does this crap surprise you? :)
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