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| RockmanDash12 | Jul 18 2013, 05:33 PM Post #1 |
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PGRF GAMING PC BUILDING GUIDE *Up to date as of May 2014, will be updated every major chip release* PC gaming can be intimidating, especially with the higher entry cost, but this guide is here to help! MYTH BUSTING GAMING PC MYTH #1 - Gaming PC's are too expensive. THIS IS WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. You don't need a $2,000 PC to get a good experience. even a $400 PC will give you great value and performance. A 550 dollar PC will match exceed console levels. GAMING PC MYTH #2 - Gaming PC's are hard to build. Nope. They are like putting Lego's together. Everything has a specific place. GAMING PC MYTH #3 - The CPU is the most important part of a gaming pc, so I'm going to get an i7. GPU's are more important in Gaming PC's. You don't need anything more than an i5 in gaming, anything more will not give you tangible boosts in gaming, while spending more on a GPU will. HARDWARE With the hardware, you can spend quite a bit, but you don't really need to depending on your situation. In this guide, there are 4 price brackets. The price does not include software or accessories, those are later on in the guide. Most of these PC's have Mail in rebates to hit the price points, so be aware of that, and also know that the price does fluctuate. if any build is way higher than it says so, just PM me and i'll try to fix it. BEFORE PICKING A BUILD, CHECK THE RESOLUTION OF YOUR MONITOR, OR THE ONE YOU ARE GOING TO UPGRADE TO. Gaming is all about the GPU. If you have a lower resolution monitor, there is no reason to get an expensive build. The Great part about PC, is the wide variety of choices. If you'd rather spend more on a case, or get a different GPU, Then do so. You can pick and choose and this is just a guide, my personal recommendation for what you should get. The law of diminishing returns will affect you if you buy high end, so it might be better if you just buy mid range stuff. The reccomended upgrades are if you want a better experience in that price bracket.. if you want more performance, step up a bracket. A note for international members, all prices are in USD and prices of specific parts may vary depending on your location. Sorry ![]() 1. Console Challenger - $400 * All Games on Medium 1080p, Most on High 1080p* Link - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GgVpD3 Who said you can't have a PC experience that's equivalent to next gen consoles for the same price? Now that the prices have gone reasonable, we can get a great gaming PC for the same price as consoles, and it can do so much more. Some specs are better, and some are weaker. Specs: AMD Athlon X4 750k, R7 265, 4gb ram. Recommended upgrades - 8GB of Ram, Aftermarket heatsink, SSD 2. Console + Build - $550 *Games on High 1080p, Most on Ultra* AMD link - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3swsMp The first build will pretty much satisfy your needs quite well, but if you want the a PC experience that's better than what you can get on the consoles, you'll need to step up a bit. This one pretty much is the best value for your money that you can get in PC today. While the first build will run everything extremely well today, who knows in the future? this one is a bit better for that, and it has better cooling for a more comfortable computing experience. AMD FX 8320, r9 270x, and 8gb ram. If you want to keep it at 500, you could get a 270 and go with the stock heat sink, but this way is better in my opinion. Reccomended Upgrades - SSD 3. Mid-High range PC Gaming Build - $750 *All 1080p games on Ultra, Most games on 1440p* AMD - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gRDWmG Intel - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PMzDnQ Let's say you are the type of person who wants a completely smooth gaming experience, 1080p, 60fps. you need everything to be maxed out, everything to be perfect. With AMD's 8 core 8320, a r9 285, and a bit of overclocking, you'll get that experience of maxing everything out on 1080p. Intel Specs: i5 4430, r9 285, 8gb Ram. Also, the AMD one now has an SSD, which'll speed up everyday usage. Reccomended Upgrades - SSD for Intel 4. Editing + Gaming PC - $1,000 *Most games Ultra 1440p* Intel Link - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/H2XcBm AMD Link - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FyjFCJ A PC can do so much more than a console. That includes editing, CAD work etc. This builds focuses more on that productivity stuff, and is the first to include an SSD, and a nicer motherboard for expansion, etc. I'll add it when it comes out, but this build will have the Phanteks Enthroo Pro, a really nice case, built for PC enthusiasts. You can overclock as much as you want on this one, and you get the fully unlocked chips while the $750 build had chips that weren't completely full. 5. 4k Gaming & Productivity - $2500 *Ultra 1440p, 4k at high* Intel Link - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VX4byc With the new generation of gaming and the new era of High Res displays, I added another tier for the people who do not understand the idea of bang for your buck, or really want 4k. This is not practical at all, and anybody who has this money is really tech savvy and probably should not be looking up obscure guides on obscure forums... This build comes with an i7 5930k, Intel's 6 core processor that'll laugh at other processors when it comes to productivity and gaming in the future. This build has 2 GTX 970's to give good performance on high resolution displays. SOFTWARE For gaming, There aren't too many options. Windows is your best bet, but in my opinion windows 7 works better for gaming, but i'll provide links to both. When installing, download the drivers from the website. You might need a DVD drive to install this, and drives are all in the accessories. Windows 7 - http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Builder/dp/B004Q0PT3I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1374183177&sr=8-1 Windows 8 - http://www.amazon.com/Windows-System-Builder-OEM-64-Bit/dp/B0094NY3R0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1374183179&sr=8-2 Valve has been pushing to Linux, with their new Steam OS, and Ubuntu. Steam OS isn't out yet, but it'll be a great free OS for games. (I hope) Ubuntu - http://www.ubuntu.com/ Steam OS - http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/ ACCESSORIES In the Hardware section, I only put what you need, but you might want more stuff, like keyboards, mouses, wireless cards, etc. I'll put my recommendations here. Keyboard: If your gaming, a mechanical keyboard is king. If you don't have the money for one though, try the Knucker, which feels like cherry switches, but it's not and it's alot cheaper. Thermaltake Knucker: http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-eSports-KNUCKER-Keyboard-KB-KNK008US/dp/B009A803AK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1381208331&sr=8-1&keywords=thermaltake+knucker IBM Model M: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=model+m&_osacat=0&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.XIBM+Model+M&_nkw=IBM+Model+M&_sacat=0&_from=R40 Rosewill Mechanical Keyboard: http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Mechanical-Keyboard-Cherry-RK-9000I/dp/B008SVJH16/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374185175&sr=1-1& Mouse Corsair Gaming Mouse: http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Performance-Gunmetal-CH-9000022-NA/dp/B00ARD5410/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374185353&sr=1-1& Razer Taipan Ambidextrous Mouse: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008BGXYBM Cheap Amazon Mouse: http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Wireless-Mouse-Receiver-Black/dp/B005EJH6Z4/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374185494&sr=1-2&keywords=amazon+mouse Monitor I recommend at least 1080p. The 23 inch is an ASUS which I have, it's a great IPS monitor, but the others are 1440p monitors which are essentially apple cinema displays. Pretty good panels, pick between seller. I added a 4k monitor because they are finally getting reasonable in price, but the lack of IPS might be an annoying thing. Asus 23 inch 1080p Monitor: http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-VS239H-P-23-Inch-Full-HD-Monitor/dp/B008DWITHI/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374185528&sr=1-3 X-Star 27 inch 1440p Monitor: http://www.ebay.com/sch/merchant/dream-seller?_nkw=x-star+dp2710&_sacat=&_ex_kw=&_mPrRngCbx=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_sop=12 Monoprice 27 inch 1440p Monitor: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=114&cp_id=11401&cs_id=1130704&p_id=10509&seq=1&format=2 Samsung 4k monitor: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-28-Inch-Definition-Monitor-U28D590D/dp/B00IEZGWI2/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1399516018&sr=8-4 Internet: With gaming, wired is better. If your at the other side of the house, try the Powerline adapters. Powerline adapters send an Ethernet signal through your Powerline, and they work great. Wireless USB: http://www.amazon.com/Asus-Wireless-N-Graphical-Interface-USB-N53/dp/B005SAKW9G/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1374184844&sr=8-9 Wireless PCIE: http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WDN4800-Wireless-Express-Adapter/dp/B007GMPZ0A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1374185066&sr=8-1& Powerline Adapter: http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-PA4010KIT-Powerline-Adapter-Starter/dp/B00AWRUICG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1381208624&sr=8-1&keywords=powerline+adapter Wired Ethernet Cable: http://www.amazon.com/Cables-Go-27153-Snagless-Meters/dp/B0002JFN4M/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1381208693&sr=8-4&keywords=Cat6+cable Sound Card - http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-XONAR-Headphone-Audio-Card/dp/B0045JHJSS/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374186438&sr=1-1&keywords=asus+xonar DVD Drive Internal: http://www.amazon.com/Asus-24xDVD-RW-Serial-Internal-DRW-24B1ST/dp/B0033Z2BAQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374186183& External: http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Writer-External-Optical-Drive/dp/B003M0NT1M/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374186357&sr=1-6&keywords=external+dvd+drive Blu Ray Drive * If you get a Blu Ray drive, there's no point in getting a DVD drive* Internal Reader - http://www.amazon.com/Asus-DVD-ROM-Internal-Blu-Ray-BC-12B1ST/dp/B004SUO068/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374186463&sr=1-1&keywords=blu+ray+drive Internal Writer - http://www.amazon.com/BW-12B1ST-BLK-Blu-ray-Internal-Encryption/dp/B004ZMG55I/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1374186548&sr=1-2& External Reader - http://www.amazon.com/Blu-Ray-Player-External-Laptop-Burner/dp/B001TVAU0E/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374186634&sr=1-2&keywords=blu+ray+drive+external External Writer - http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SE-506BB-TSBD-External-Blu-ray/dp/B00AO1XFM0/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374186634&sr=1-1&keywords=blu+ray+drive+external Controller The best controller for windows is the xbox 360 controller. Wired - http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Xbox-360-Controller-Windows/dp/B004QRKWLA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1374600898&sr=8-1 Wireless Adapter - http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Wireless-Gaming-Receiver-Black/dp/B0032A0RBC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1381208287&sr=8-3&keywords=windows+wireless+adapter+360+controller PUTTING IT TOGETHER Putting a PC together is very simple, and there are many guides out there to do so. Putting a PC is like putting legos together, and there are a ton of guides out there. Here is my favorite guide for building a PC, made by newegg. There are others out there, and it's really just a quick search away. Newegg's PC Assembly Guide - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls Asus has a nice Guide also - http://rog.asus.com/pc-build-guide/ Q&A INTEL VS AMD? Both are good, it's personal preference. I personally think AMD offers better value, as the motherboards and the CPU's are cheaper for similar performance, but intel performs better in single threaded tasks. On the less expensive builds, i'm going to recommend the AMD build, but for the higher end stuff, it's up to you. Prebuilds vs DIY? DIY is obviously cheaper, but if your such a technophobe, a prebuild is a good option. Just avoid alienware, ibuypower and other companies that charge too much for the PC's. I'd reccomend NCIX if you are going prebuild, but i'd recommend DIY over any prebuild. What's Overclocking, and how do I do it? Overclocking is changing the speed of your parts so that they run faster, to get more performance out of your money. Certain parts are built with overclocking in mind. Overclocking is faster but they also run hotter, so you might want a better cooler. If you have an intel build, you need a specific motherboard, and a processor with a K at the end. What are some Upgrades you would recommend if you don't want to do a completely new build? for general purpose use, I'd reccomend an SSD. Blazing fast, and they are getting cheaper by the day! If you don't have a gpu, but have a computer built in the past few years, and you don't want to build a new rig I'd get an Nvidia GTX 750 Ti, because they game pretty well and are pretty cheap. An aftermarket heatsink is always reccomended, so you can get extra performance out of your cpu and gpu, and it'll run cooler/more efficiently. Edited by RockmanDash12, Sep 25 2014, 07:51 PM.
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| Tr3vor | Aug 26 2013, 01:06 PM Post #26 |
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With that computer, its a low profile case and has a crappy PSU. The only video cards you would fit in there would be way too slow for some actual gaming. The CPU is pretty slow too. As someone else said, use it as an HTPC, it would be good for that. 1600x900 is fine but 1920x1080 is preferable. Stick with that monitor and spend more money on the PC, and maybe in the future you'll have enough money for the monitor. |
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| RockmanDash12 | Oct 8 2013, 12:33 AM Post #27 |
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*October Update* I updated a few things in the accessories, like the Steam OS link, Power line adapters, and the Thermaltake Knuckers. I overid PC Part Picker's tendency to pick from all places in the internet and over rid them with Newegg or Amazon. Updated for AMD's new GPU release. Edited by RockmanDash12, Oct 16 2013, 12:28 AM.
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| RockmanDash12 | Nov 7 2013, 06:38 PM Post #28 |
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*November Update* I Updated Tier 2 and 4 to add the Tahiti LE GPU and the 290. Added tier 5. |
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| RockmanDash12 | Dec 13 2013, 02:45 AM Post #29 |
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Update - Swapped Radeon cards for Nvidia cards in some builds because mark up because of increased demand... DAMN YOU LITECOIN MINERS. |
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| bolton121 | Dec 13 2013, 04:49 AM Post #30 |
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To the PC guru's: I would really like some help. Let me start by saying I have almost zero specific knowledge about PCs (apart from what everyone's general tech knowledge is). I bought a mid-ranged budget gaming PC last year from a site called overclockers.co.uk (they build it for you and it is pretty much ready to go when it all arrives). I bought the system mainly for Steam and games such as Starcraft etc. I would like to start gradually upgrading the system and would like advice as to where I should start. I have listed the details that I could find below: "Primo 6100i" Intel Core i3 2100 3.10GHz DDR3 Dual Core System *** FREE UPGRADE TO INTEL CORE I3 2120 3.30GHZ CPU Kingston Blu 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9AD3B1K2/4G) OcUK GeForce GT 430 1024MB GDDR3 PCI-Express Graphics Card Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-02050) Any advice will be greatly appreciated! |
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| Tr3vor | Dec 13 2013, 04:54 AM Post #31 |
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First of all, graphics card. The thing that they do with those prebuilt computers is overemphasize the CPU and don't really put money into the graphics card. And that's the case here, the gt430 is very low end. To know what to upgrade to you'll need to know what your power supply is because if that can't supply enough power, then you can't upgrade to a more demanding video card. They probably put a generic low wattage power supply in the machine to cut costs to really you should probably start with the power supply. Something like this would be a good upgrade probably: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027 (if there is a cheapo power supply) The thing with power supplies are that if one goes out, it could kill your whole system, so you don't want a cheapo. after that I'd say that you'd need a video card upgrade or RAM. 4gb isn't enough for gaming nowdays, but ram is really expensive right now so I'd probably do the video card before that. The case is also rather small, so you'll need to measure how much room you have to fit a video card, otherwise you might end up with one too big. Edited by Tr3vor, Dec 13 2013, 05:07 AM.
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| eSkilliam | Jan 18 2014, 10:45 PM Post #32 |
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I would like some help... not so much with building a gaming PC, but with building an retro gaming PC. To those of you that have dabbled in it, would a Win95 PC cover most games that my current rig won't play? If so, what is the newest I would want to go with processor/mobo combo for that pc? I've built machines since the 286 days, but I don't remember and figured if no one else, then Tr3vor would know where to start. Also, where do you find most of your old components? |
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| majinpowers | Jan 18 2014, 11:27 PM Post #33 |
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Check the retro PC section in my thread in the Collector's Corner on what I think you should look for to make the perfect retro PC. http://petesgameroomforum.com/topic/5351096/1/ What kid of games are you wanting to run is the main question... as in how old? To be able to play the most games easily shoot for a 486 - P100 anything beyond a P100 takes some small tweaks to get the speed correct on the very oldest games but its doable. I wouldn't go anything over a P200 and be sure to look for the things I did in my thread cause it will make life much more easy. Win 95 and 98 makes it harder to get Sound working 100% in DOS but its doable just takes more work and custom Autoexec.bat and Config.sys files. |
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| eSkilliam | Jan 19 2014, 07:47 PM Post #34 |
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I'm thinking games ranging from the King's Quest series, to Doom 2, to 7th Guest and other early Multimedia CD-Rom games, maybe some Full Throttle, or Crusader: No Remorse. |
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| Tr3vor | Jan 19 2014, 08:47 PM Post #35 |
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If you are thinking Doom 2, then you should get a Pentium machine. I'd say 133mhz or higher. Windows 95 is nice for the UI, but if its purely for DOS games, I'd stick with DOS 6.22 and use DosShell or some other UI program. Windows 95 or 98 sometimes has issues with some games (like my Pentium MMX 200mhz computer has stutters with Tyrian 2000 in windows 98, but runs perfectly in DOS 6.22). I find my PCs at thrift stores usually. if you see an old looking computer at a thrift store with a 5 Pin DIN connector like this: ![]() Then its probably a Pentium or older machine. You can also get them from Ebay, but that can be a bit expensive. Motherboards don't really matter that much back then, except for the "PC CHIPS" motherboards around the later 486 era, those have fake cache and are rather slow. I wouldn't go building one since the parts alone can be expensive, I say look out for them in thrift stores, they'll eventually show up. You might find a cheap one on ebay every now and again too. For a computer like a Pentium, I'd go for a Sound Blaster AWE32/64. |
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| majinpowers | Jan 19 2014, 10:23 PM Post #36 |
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eSkilliam am I wrong in thinking you live in NC? You can get true DOS working on a Win95 / 98 PC but it will take tweaking the Autoexec.bat and Config.sys files. Most of the games you listed would work best on a Win 95 / 98 machine other than Kings Quest. A lot of the older Sierra games run the best in DOS and on slower older PC's Doom runs great on both my P133 and my P200 but I haven't tried it on the 486 machine. Sadly I don't have 7th guest anymore. Edited by majinpowers, Jan 19 2014, 10:25 PM.
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| Tr3vor | Jan 20 2014, 12:38 AM Post #37 |
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Doom 2 is heavier on the hardware than Doom 1. I wouldn't recommend a 486 for that, unless you have a DX4-100, but yeah, nah. Pentium all the way. I don't have any problems with King's Quest and Leisure Suit Larry on my MMX 200. |
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| majinpowers | Jan 20 2014, 12:43 AM Post #38 |
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really? A lot of the older sierra games don't run at the correct speed on my MMX 200. even games as late as Space Quest IV run too fast unless you patch them using the speed hacks and not all the games have those. Police Quest VGA I cant get working at all on my 200 MMX. |
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| Tr3vor | Jan 20 2014, 12:48 AM Post #39 |
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Yeah, I went into dos mode and ran LSL and KQ1 just fine. Did you have the speed setting set to fast or normal? From what I've seen the Fast mode runs the game as fast as the processor can while Normal runs the game by the RTC or something.
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| majinpowers | Jan 20 2014, 12:59 AM Post #40 |
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Your running the updated LSL and KQ1 games if it has the slider bar. even some of the ones with the slider run way to fast on the lowest settings without the speed fix's from Sierra. Conquests of the Longbow: The Legend of Robin Hood and Space Quest IV both had to be patched to work on my machine. Its not a big deal because most of the games have fixes the only one i couldnt get working was Police Quest VGA. It don't even load because of a CPU error on the MMX but will run on my P133. Try KQ III or IV and see if they run at the correct speeds. Old Sierra games gave me the biggest problems other than a few old old games like Mega Man. Edited by majinpowers, Jan 20 2014, 01:01 AM.
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| Tr3vor | Jan 20 2014, 01:04 AM Post #41 |
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Don't recall any slider bar. The games were running in an EGA mode. Might already have this speed patch installed then. If he wants to run doom 2 I'd still do a P133, maybe try moslo or something like that for older computers. And you can also turn off the CPU/motherboard cache to make it slower. Edited by Tr3vor, Jan 20 2014, 01:07 AM.
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| majinpowers | Jan 20 2014, 01:06 AM Post #42 |
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Try running Mega Man if you want to see something that's totally funny. one click of the arrow key and you go flying like the flash until you hit something. I will check when I get home with KQ1 since i have the game. I only have the redone one installed and it works fine and really I dont know why you would play the old one over the redone one. Edited by majinpowers, Jan 20 2014, 01:09 AM.
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| Tr3vor | Jan 20 2014, 01:08 AM Post #43 |
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Yeah i've ran a few games that require a slow computer, like the first verison of Digger, didn't work out so well. Instadeath! |
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| leonk4 | Jan 20 2014, 07:38 AM Post #44 |
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| eSkilliam | Jan 20 2014, 07:45 AM Post #45 |
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I want a good mix that will play older games that my current PC won't as said earlier but the more I think about it, there aren't a lot of Windows Games I care about. Most of the early windows games have patches or will run in compatibility mode on my current machine, so I might could get by with a DOS only machine even. Now were the games dependent on the system clock or a DOS clock... or were they dependent on a DOS clock based off of the system clock? That being said, is it more about the version of DOS I run or the system itself? |
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| majinpowers | Jan 20 2014, 09:47 AM Post #46 |
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Tr3vor you was right the KQ games run fine I installed KQ 1 and KQ 2 original EGA versions and both ran perfect. Its strange that newer games like Longbow and Space Quest suffer from speed bugs but these don't. Its about the system. Only reason you would want DOS over Win 98 is for the ease of getting sound blaster to work. I prefer to have a Win 98 machine myself because you can get it setup and running everything in DOS with sound working 100% it just takes more tweaking. the advantage is being able to Play both DOS and old Windows only games like Shivers among other things. Really the best setup you could get is the newest Pentium you can get like the MMX 200 and then dropping a slower CPU into it. I would say the sweet spot would be a P100 speed. The main reasons I picked the P200 MMX PC for my main retro gaming rig is...
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| eSkilliam | Jan 20 2014, 10:01 AM Post #47 |
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I may try to duplicate your rig then. That sounds like it would work for me. What do you guys do as far as monitors? CRT or 4:3 LCD?(I skimmed your collections last night, but I'm at work right now and the pictures are all blocked here)
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| majinpowers | Jan 20 2014, 10:15 AM Post #48 |
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I use a 4:3 LCD just for the space it saves.
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| Tr3vor | Jan 20 2014, 03:17 PM Post #49 |
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I'd also choose a Pentium 75mhz-MMX 233mhz. That seems to be a sweet spot for DOS gaming, earlier stuff is more specialized. You can run straight up DOS 6.22 on a Pentium perfectly. I use an old SVGA monitor. I like the old curved tube and the kind of soft image it provides for older stuff, but that's all a personal preference. You can easily use any LCD with a VGA input with an old computer with a VGA card. Although DOS 6.22 has a max of 2gb per partition of a hard disk and only up to 4 partitions per hard disk so you can only use 8gb disks with DOS 6.22, but You don't really need more space than that for an old computer like that. Beware of using earlier Socket 7 motherboards with an MMX processor. Those MMX CPUs use 2 voltages while the old non MMX Pentiums use just 3.3v I think. You'll toast an MMX CPU in a motherboard that doesn't support an MMX CPU. Edited by Tr3vor, Jan 20 2014, 03:18 PM.
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| RockmanDash12 | Mar 4 2014, 10:48 PM Post #50 |
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Refreshed builds to match prices... everything's so expensive, i'd recommend not buying now. |
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