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New 3ds; Angry? Excited? Indifferent?
Topic Started: Aug 30 2014, 09:29 AM (1,443 Views)
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A couple of days ago, Nintendo announced a new 3ds will be getting a release in Japan, no word on other regions as of yet. This new design will have an LL (XL) version as well. A "C stick" was added to the right side above the face buttons to be sued as both a button and secondary analog for certain situations. The face buttons now have SNES colors, not that big of a deal. There are two new shoulder buttons on each side, and a few other things have been moved around the like stylus spot and game cart slot. The 3d viewing angle is now wider than ever as the camera and gyroscope tracks the direction you are looking from apparently. The battery life has been improved, and has a built in NFC reader. The system can auto adjust screen brightness to save battery life as well. There will be an sd card slot added, and lastly, a strong CPU over all meaning faster download times, and more impressive games being developed for the system.

All that aside, I see many mixed reactions so far. People that just upgraded to a 3ds XL probably aren't thrilled that in a couple years there will be new 3ds exclusives they won't be able to play. For me, I held off on the XL because I had a feeling a second version with another analog stick would be coming, so I'm glad I waited. I will be picking this up in XL form for sure, hopefully North America gets an announcement soon.
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As long as it doesn't have any exclusives I don't care. Why use that little thumbstick when I have the circle pad plus thing?
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There will be exclusive games for it.

I just pre-ordered a New 3DS LL!!! Super stoked about this! Does anyone know where you can pre-order Xenoblade or other New 3DS exclusive games? Thanks
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Aug 30 2014, 09:52 AM
As long as it doesn't have any exclusives I don't care. Why use that little thumbstick when I have the circle pad plus thing?
Indeed there will be exclusives, mainly due to the stronger processing power. I don't think the c stick or extra buttons are any reason for exclusives. It's already been confirmed xenoblade will be exclusive to the new 3ds.
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I worded it wrong. I meant as long as it didn't have any exclusives I wouldn't care. It's the only reason I see for upgrading, otherwise I would feel like a downgrade, the circle pad plus makes holding it so much more comfortable.
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Looks like my waiting was well worth. The very first version will decrease in price even more so, so now I'll finally be able to afford it.
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KingJames88
Aug 30 2014, 09:29 AM
People that just upgraded to a 3ds XL probably aren't thrilled that in a couple years there will be new 3ds exclusives they won't be able to play.
Well that's bullshit :/ I wasn't mad until I read that it will have exclusive games and my 3DS XL will be obsolete entirely in a year when this thing hits. I thought it was just a remodeled system originally.
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Aug 30 2014, 02:10 PM
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Aug 30 2014, 09:29 AM
People that just upgraded to a 3ds XL probably aren't thrilled that in a couple years there will be new 3ds exclusives they won't be able to play.
Well that's bullshit :/ I wasn't mad until I read that it will have exclusive games and my 3DS XL will be obsolete entirely in a year when this thing hits. I thought it was just a remodeled system originally.
I wouldn't say obsolete. Remember developers are going to have to make a choice when developing a game, and if they choose to make it so their game can only be played on this new type of 3ds, they'll be leaving out many potential customers. However, if you just bought a 3ds XL, I can see the frustration.
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Aug 30 2014, 02:10 PM
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Aug 30 2014, 09:29 AM
People that just upgraded to a 3ds XL probably aren't thrilled that in a couple years there will be new 3ds exclusives they won't be able to play.
Well that's bullshit :/ I wasn't mad until I read that it will have exclusive games and my 3DS XL will be obsolete entirely in a year when this thing hits. I thought it was just a remodeled system originally.
I wouldn't say obsolete. Remember developers are going to have to make a choice when developing a game, and if they choose to make it so their game can only be played on this new type of 3ds, they'll be leaving out many potential customers. However, if you just bought a 3ds XL, I can see the frustration.
I bought a 3DS XL last summer :/ I completely understand that if you buy tech earlier you get shafted a bit since it will be revised with a lower price point, bundled with something, and have better functionality later on. However, normally revisions are just sleeker looking systems but people with the first gen model can still enjoy everything new coming out for it. This just seems like their fracturing the 3DS fanbase with this.

To me this feels like they made a revision to the 3DS I already have, but are giving me the finger and saying what I bought is worthless and if I want to keep enjoying a 3DS I need to fork out another $200. Not happening.

Real shame. Nintendo was actually winning me back this past year.
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Aug 30 2014, 02:40 PM
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Aug 30 2014, 02:10 PM
KingJames88
Aug 30 2014, 09:29 AM
People that just upgraded to a 3ds XL probably aren't thrilled that in a couple years there will be new 3ds exclusives they won't be able to play.
Well that's bullshit :/ I wasn't mad until I read that it will have exclusive games and my 3DS XL will be obsolete entirely in a year when this thing hits. I thought it was just a remodeled system originally.
I wouldn't say obsolete. Remember developers are going to have to make a choice when developing a game, and if they choose to make it so their game can only be played on this new type of 3ds, they'll be leaving out many potential customers. However, if you just bought a 3ds XL, I can see the frustration.
It IS effectively obselete. They have announced that the "New 3DS" not only has increased horsepower (among other features), but it will also have unique games that will only work on that system. How is this NOT an entirely new handheld?

And i've seen people comparing it to the Game Boy, the GBA, the DS and even the N64 with the expansion pack. Guess what? Every Game Boy could play every Game Boy game (untill the console's successor the GBC was released 8 years later), every GBA could play GBA games, every DS (minus the four shovelware quality DSi exclusive titles) could play every DS game.

Hardware REVISIONS are fine, releasing a more powerfull system that will have it's own software lineup only 3 years after the previous console? How are people saying this is a good thing? Say they were to release a "New Wii U" next year that brought the power of the console up closer to the level of the PS4/Bone (along withgames that were going to take advantage of that extra hardware), but kept the functionality the current Wii U has. Would you not say that was ridiculous?

While Nintendo get a lot of shit thrown at them unjustly, this is not one of those times.
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It's definitely more than a revision, however I'd like to see if developers jump on board with it and release a ton of exclusives first before calling the 3ds obsolete. I don't think many developers out there want to alienate a large portion of their consumer base. If this becomes the case, then yes I'd agree the 3ds is obsolete and your being forced into buying this new handheld. There may be a situation like we have now with the ps3 and ps4 for example, where the same game comes out for both systems, so that people aren't forced to get the ps4, only if they want the added benefits for those particular games.

it definitely sucks for anyone that jut recently purchased a 3ds or just upgraded to an XL. Hopefully there will be a great trade in opportunity to get some people to make the switch, otherwise I don't see this selling well out of the gate. Personally, I'm definitely going to get one, but probably not immediately, I'll wait for a bundle or price drop, or some game I absolutely must have to come out.
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Xenoblade Chronicles for the New 3DS will be out in Japan next year

Bummer :( Are there any other games for the "New 3DS" that will be released on launch? Otherwise I might just order a few import 3DS games.
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Aug 30 2014, 03:38 PM
KingJames88
Aug 30 2014, 02:40 PM
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Aug 30 2014, 02:10 PM
KingJames88
Aug 30 2014, 09:29 AM
People that just upgraded to a 3ds XL probably aren't thrilled that in a couple years there will be new 3ds exclusives they won't be able to play.
Well that's bullshit :/ I wasn't mad until I read that it will have exclusive games and my 3DS XL will be obsolete entirely in a year when this thing hits. I thought it was just a remodeled system originally.
I wouldn't say obsolete. Remember developers are going to have to make a choice when developing a game, and if they choose to make it so their game can only be played on this new type of 3ds, they'll be leaving out many potential customers. However, if you just bought a 3ds XL, I can see the frustration.
It IS effectively obselete. They have announced that the "New 3DS" not only has increased horsepower (among other features), but it will also have unique games that will only work on that system. How is this NOT an entirely new handheld?

And i've seen people comparing it to the Game Boy, the GBA, the DS and even the N64 with the expansion pack. Guess what? Every Game Boy could play every Game Boy game (untill the console's successor the GBC was released 8 years later), every GBA could play GBA games, every DS (minus the four shovelware quality DSi exclusive titles) could play every DS game.

Hardware REVISIONS are fine, releasing a more powerfull system that will have it's own software lineup only 3 years after the previous console? How are people saying this is a good thing? Say they were to release a "New Wii U" next year that brought the power of the console up closer to the level of the PS4/Bone (along withgames that were going to take advantage of that extra hardware), but kept the functionality the current Wii U has. Would you not say that was ridiculous?

While Nintendo get a lot of shit thrown at them unjustly, this is not one of those times.
agreed completely

I wonder if it will still support ds games?

makes me a bit glad i didn't get a XL in february, but this is just not a good move for them
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While I like the new 3DS, and if money allowed, I'd probably get the new XL... I can't help but feel its a terrible move on Nintendos part. It's a bit of a FU to their fanbase, and I got a feeling that it's born out of necessity more than anything.

Mercedes Benz DLC - not like Nintendo.
Pokken fighters - not like Nintendo
Revised 3DS - not a smart move.

Got a feeling that monetary reasons are at play here.
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I think any hardware manufacturer in this industry would be criticized for this, releasing essentially the same platform with a power boost that then has it's own exclusives. This combined with the other 3DS models and the 2DS just makes their whole catalogue look like a massive cluster fuck...for want of a better word.

I for one would hate to be selling these things, trying to explain to parents what handheld plays what games and what model has which features would be a bloody nightmare. This is Nintendo though, they know a core of people are going to snap it up no questions asked. :-/
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To those saying it's going to make the former 3DS's obsolete, it is going to make them no more obsolete than the original DS... or the PS1, or the NES, or the Genesis, or the Virtual Boy, etc.,etc.,etc... Most of this board collects and plays so called "obsolete" systems. It's a new system with a lot more backwards compatibility than other ones. If it wasn't named the 3DS, but instead named, say, the 4DS, or the 3DS U you wouldn't be complaining. It's like being mad at Microsoft for bringing out the Xbox One or at Sony for bringing out the PS4. The timing may be bad on Nintendo's part, but that is the only logical complaint that I see here... And looking at the price drop fiasco on the original 3DS and the slow pick up on the Wii U, Nintendo's timing has been off for years. I have a feeling that Japan sees things a little differently than we do.


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I definitely have mixed feelings about the system and agree with everyone who is arguing that Nintendo is fracturing the 3DS market. This also seems like the system that the 3DS should have been at launch. How hard would it have been to add another stick, more shoulder buttons, and some increased processing power? To me, the only innovation here is developing new screen tech that allows for better off-angle viewing in 3D mode. That having been said, the 3DS is becoming an iconic Nintendo platform, and this new revision (or, system, depending on your point of view) should improve the gaming experience. I am begrudgingly on-board, but will not support a similar strategy with the Wii U.
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While I like the new 3DS, and if money allowed, I'd probably get the new XL... I can't help but feel its a terrible move on Nintendos part. It's a bit of a FU to their fanbase, and I got a feeling that it's born out of necessity more than anything.

Mercedes Benz DLC - not like Nintendo.
Pokken fighters - not like Nintendo
Revised 3DS - not a smart move.

Got a feeling that monetary reasons are at play here.
Come on Andy let the anger flow.
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Come on Andy let the anger flow.
No chance matey, I love being able to see Xenoblade on handheld, I just wish it was under better circumstances.

They shoulda held off until the next gen iteration.
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^This! Sucks that it's not gonna come out until next year though... Yeah, they probably should have held off until next gen. The graphics looked extremely choppy in the video for Xenoblade. Having that said, I'm pretty stoked to play it in 3D.
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I was planning on upgrading to the XL anyway now this just means I should wait abit.
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First off why are you naming this New 3DS. Between the ds to 3DS, Wii to WiiU and 3DS to 2DS, you would have thought ninetndo learned the lesson about confusing everyone but the most avid of games.

That aside I my confused. So this doesn't really feel like the next generation of handhold to me, but it is not simply a revision either. It is a upgrade, am I wrong about this. If that is true this seems to go against the way consoles work.

Now assume I understand what is this thing is, for the most part I am OK with the upgrade. The add nubbin, NFC, better 3D; someone made I better version of the thing they make last year welcome to electronics. The the better processor were you can now have exclusive game is kind of my problem. I will say that I feel we are over reacting to say that the old 3ds is now obsolete. Like I said this only feels like a small improvement to me. I just don't think a lot of developer are going to be willing to sacrifice the very big current 3DS install base just so they can get there game on a little more powerful system. I am not saying that there will not be any exclusives (obviously that has already happened), but they will be few and fare between. But still have any subset that is going to have an exclusive section of game within a console ….....I don't know what to call it “grouping”, why.
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they should of named it the Super 3DS
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on 3ds games now they usually have a sticker saying "also works on 2ds" so I wonder if they are also gonna put on a sticker saying "also plays on new 3ds" as well or something XD it'll be so clustered that you won't be able to see the actual cover anymore XD

but then again, the dsi was basically the same situation, so maybe the same thing will happen again?

(but this does already have a good exclusive announced for it, so idk)

I hope it can still play ds games, if it can't that'll really suck
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