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| Is it wrong to use adblock while watching Youtube? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 24 2015, 12:27 AM (2,523 Views) | |
| NinjaPenguin8969 | Feb 24 2015, 12:27 AM Post #1 |
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I SUCK AT GAMES
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It seems like the Youtube gaming community is heavily involved with ad-sense for the past year or two. I keep seeing videos about how adblock hurts content creators, and how Nintendo is anti-gamer for being finicky regarding letting people make money off their video games. I don't know, I like adblock since I don't get viruses anywhere near as much as I use to since installing it, and I don't see how not being able to make money off of hobby videos makes a company anti-gamer tbh. Boycott Nintendo because they're anti-gamer by not letting me be able to monetize just seems ridiculous to me. Quite frankly I'm rather sick of hearing about monetization since it just makes it feel like a bunch of people I use to watch are sell outs at this point. If someone makes content I really like such as John's Arcade I'll donate every now and then since he doesn't cram the making money portion down my throat and uses it to noticeably improve his content. Just seems more genuine overall like it used to be. That's just me though, what do you guys think? :] |
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| TNT | Feb 24 2015, 12:41 AM Post #2 |
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Totally Not Thanous
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I watch on mobile usually (especially since it makes my computer really funky everytime I try on there) so no Adblock sadly XD but yeah I pretty much all agree with u. |
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| MidiPour | Feb 24 2015, 12:56 AM Post #3 |
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Power of Sardines
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I don't have a problem with people monetizing on their video; it's none of my business whether they're making harmless videos of them playing games. However, I also don't care for a content creator's agenda with Nintendo or whoever else, and have tuned out of the dialogue wherever it's being discussed. Tough luck you're not going to make money because a percentage of people are using adblock. If you're hurting for cash and know people will back you, put up a donations tab. Or perhaps find another job while making videos if you're not making ends meet. |
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| NinjaPenguin8969 | Feb 24 2015, 01:24 AM Post #4 |
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Yeah good point. I don't mind slapping ads on the videos. I just don't like the whole guilt tripping people who use adblock, sponsors stuff, and accusing companies of being anti-gamer just because they don't want you making money off their product. I think it's free publicity personally but I don't blame Nintendo for reacting the way they do. The vids can still stay up ya know lol. |
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| HeavyMetalGamer | Feb 24 2015, 02:43 AM Post #5 |
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The new guy here
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I have Adblock on Firefox, but I turn it off when I watch Youtube, and channels I like. It's not hard to turn it off, but when I go to other websites, I have it on for the most part. With all that being said, I actually don't mind people using Adblock when they watch my videos (atleast the 3 1/2 people who watch) because I make no revenue at all, not one dime. I have had people say to me "Well you wouldn't want people using adblock watching your stuff, so why should you do it?" I tell them, that I don't make a dime, and some people get pissed if you even use Adblock at all. As for the whole Nintendo thing, at the end of the day, it's their content, that is their games, sure it's free publicity, and if I was a huge developer, I wouldn't care if Youtubers did let's plays, but I can't blame Nintendo either, or any developer, because other developers do it as well. Namco does it more then Nintendo, I have 1 video that has Nintendo content that has had content ID matches, which is funny because I have done videos on other Nintendo games, and only one video has been hit with content ID matches. Namco did the same exact thing, Capcom has done it too. More then once, but it's funny when everyone just attacks Nintendo. Yet won't attack others. Thankfully these developers so far, haven't taken the videos down, so I got no problem. As long as they make it viewable, and not blocking it, I got no issues. Just my 2 cents on the subject. Edited by HeavyMetalGamer, Feb 24 2015, 02:45 AM.
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| KingJames88 | Feb 24 2015, 07:32 AM Post #6 |
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I also mainly watch youtube on my phone, so have gotten used to the ads, where I encounter them, and because of this, never really put much thought into purposely blocking them or allowing them on a particular persons videos. I suppose since I'm already used to them, I'd not block them on peoples channels I really enjoy, but would block them if I'm just browsing youtube generally. As far as Nintendo goes, I don't put too much thought into it. It would make sense to me that they'd want free publicity, but at the same time, they may not want people using their content however and whenever they choose. Big corporations can be funny in their thinking sometimes. |
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| pokemonzrpg | Feb 24 2015, 02:53 PM Post #7 |
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I commend people who have managed to make a living doing what they love, as in YouTube videos for some. If I enjoy someone's content, the least I can do is sit through a 30 second ad TOPS on a video. Would that really kill you? |
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| MidiPour | Feb 24 2015, 03:56 PM Post #8 |
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Power of Sardines
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I've donated to a few streamers before and made it clear that I was using adblock, and the streamers who've read my comment on stream didn't seem to mind. The amount I've donated, as menial as it has been, is probably more than the lifetime advert revenue they'd make off of me. When I'm in a much better financial situation, I do plan to donate more generously and more often to support the people I enjoy viewing and want to see stick around in their profession, but I have no intention of removing adblock. I'll say that there's nothing wrong with content creators feeling indignant and standing up against companies like Nintendo that are taking a slice of their revenues. If they can make a good point and have their voices be heard, they might reach a agreement that benefits both parties. |
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| pokemonzrpg | Feb 25 2015, 09:35 AM Post #9 |
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Zach Archer
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Sure, donating is totally cool and a definite way to make up for that, but can I just ask if there are any actual benefits from using Adblock other than trying to save yourself 30 second max intervals at a time? It just seems like a pretty lame thing to do to benefit yourself a lot less than it would have benefited them in the long-run. Maybe losing as revenue from one individual doesn't make a difference, but that mentality is the same with voting on elections as well. As more and more people use Adblock, an impact can be made. |
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| AndsyRR | Feb 25 2015, 10:49 AM Post #10 |
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Depends on the effort the creator has taken. Take John's Arcade. Dude uploads a couple of hours worth of content each week. Never monetises. He does it purely for the passion, but does have a paypal donate. If you feel so inclined. Others however, monetise their awful VLog vids with adverts and those popups. They also run patreons, sell shitty tshirts on teespring and e-beg relentlessly. I have no quibbles blocking their ads if / when I come across their content. Unless you're producing professional standard work, you have no right to complain when people adblock your vlogs. Vlogging shouldnt be a viable career plan. Sorry dudes. |
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| NinjaPenguin8969 | Feb 25 2015, 02:26 PM Post #11 |
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Agreed completely Andy. |
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| MidiPour | Feb 26 2015, 03:32 AM Post #12 |
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Power of Sardines
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I'll keep the retort fairly short, I don't share your opinion or attitude. Also, I do vote with my donate, and vote against with an adblock. |
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| MidiPour | Feb 26 2015, 03:57 AM Post #13 |
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Power of Sardines
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I'm guilty of supporting a couple of vloggers I guess (watch via iPad), which I actually find nothing wrong with. Some people are naturally good at having a presence while others have to put due effort to put out good content. It's kind of like anything else in life really, there's the people who are naturally good at something and others who have to put a varying amount of effort to compete. You shouldn't ping someone just because they didn't clock the same amount of time editing, getting certain shots, putting voice overs, animating, etc. All that really matters is whether you enjoy the content. The only time I'd agree is if the vloggers have a terrible camera, walking in sleet, or are in dim lighting - which isn't the case with anyone I recognize who's making a revenue off of Youtube. Same goes for music, painting, etc. Virtuosity shouldn't matter as long as the art/product is enjoyable or enlightening. |
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| AndsyRR | Feb 26 2015, 06:11 AM Post #14 |
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Flawed example, but the best comparison i can come up with is the recent Power Rangers reboot fan film. Completely free. Creator is refusing donations, hasnt monetised, nada. And you want cash for showing off your videogames Infront of a webcam? Bitch plz. |
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| eSkilliam | Feb 26 2015, 07:24 AM Post #15 |
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I have no problem with content creators monetizing. Monetization doesn't rack you much cash unless you are one of the big guys anyway. I'm cool with anyone trying to make money. I'm also fine with people using adblock to block the ads. Here's the deal. In the entrepreneurial community as well as the marketing community there is an "awareness" -- for lack of a better word -- of not catering to the "free-seekers". If people just want your content for free, that's all they are ever going to want. In that case they aren't necessarily the people you want in your audience anyway(if you are truly trying to cash in). If you are actually producing great and original content the people willing to pay you for it will more than make up for those that aren't willing to pay. It all evens out in the end. Make great content and the money will flow. Make crap and people will speak with their money. It's fine to use adblockers, but I highly recommend finding a way to give back to your favorite content creators. It IS work, and for some people it IS their job. I personally don't block ads, and I even go out of my way on blogs I like to click on an ad occasionally even if I'm not interested in the product. I want everyone to make a dollar and if all it takes is a click on my part or a few seconds of video in a pre-roll I'm fine to offer up that patronage. |
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| TNT | Feb 26 2015, 11:50 AM Post #16 |
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Totally Not Thanous
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That power rangers bootleg was so beautiful I'm surprised no ones made a thread for it yet xD |
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| KingJames88 | Feb 26 2015, 12:26 PM Post #17 |
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That power rangers short was pretty good, I just didn't care for the ending which seemed to bring the whole thing down for me. The whole vibe and setting for me was set up and great from the start and that ending just didn't fit and I feel it could have been gone about a different way. |
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| Death by EMP | Feb 26 2015, 01:47 PM Post #18 |
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Level 4
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I use adblock on all but a few channels. For one, the ads I get are very undesirable if you catch my drift. Also though, there are many channels which I do not wish to support through an ad view but would still like to watch some videos from i.e. Anita Sarkeesian or VEVO channels. If adsense were improved I'd consider disabling it for more channels but it seems like Google doesn't curate who they accept ads from at all. |
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| MidiPour | Feb 26 2015, 02:41 PM Post #19 |
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Power of Sardines
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Don't get me wrong, if someone were continually begging and condemning others for something they don't have to put of an effort into making, it would make sense to call them out on it. But I think the consumers should dictate what content they want to support through their continued viewership and decision to donate. If the former person wants to put out something and not receive any money for their efforts, that's their decision. If someone else can make money off of their supporters and do so, that's their decision and their supporters' willingness to so as well. I don't think anyone is or should be holding a gun to anyone's head, and I don't think one content creater's motive should dictate another's. I mean, I recently met someone who goes to college for fun and isn't planning to make a profession off of their degree, even though they had a bright outlook for a career path with their quantitative knowledge. Should that undermine everyone else's effort? Especially the ones that go into management, where soft skills are part of the curriculum? |
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| AndsyRR | Feb 26 2015, 04:32 PM Post #20 |
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Holy fuck. Report =/= reply. Sheeeeiiitttt. I get that. And ultimately, if viewers wanna chuck some dollars in the way of a creator, than thats cool. What happens between two grown ass people is their business. I just dont like how comfortable some people are to ask for handouts. But thats my own bias. |
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| NinjaPenguin8969 | Feb 26 2015, 04:59 PM Post #21 |
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Same. But I'm more of the extreme side where I don't even like getting gifts period. lol. I don't expect anyone to be like that though. I just don't think 99.9% of the gaming communities videos are worth me wasting my time watching ads, or donating towards. John's Arcade is an exemption since he clearly puts a lot of passion and effort into his work. If you just use the same template, structure, and don't improve your content for numerous years then don't expect me to turn off adblock. Edited by NinjaPenguin8969, Feb 26 2015, 05:00 PM.
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| MidiPour | Feb 26 2015, 06:45 PM Post #22 |
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Power of Sardines
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I think I'll give concrete examples. We all know there's a good amount of editing that goes into a Gamechasers episode, yet I can't help but not care about their videos or supporting them. Not that they make terrible videos, it's just not for me. Then there are people like the KindaFunny cast who just talk in front of a desk and I'm completely fine if they didn't have much editing, and fully support their endeavors because they're good at what they do. Though, I'm sure most of the preparation that goes into the show is prepping themselves for the topic of discussion. I guess there's a difference between a vlog like this where they put an effort to put interesting content, even with little editing, compared to recording footage of your kid or cat doing quotidian things. I think if the latter person continued on this route where their videos were variably similar, their viewership and support would begin to flag unless they put effort into maintaining a presence on camera, or going places, doing things that are more memorable or amusing.
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| Tr3vor | Feb 26 2015, 07:14 PM Post #23 |
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This character does not exist
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Insert apathetic statement here. If you don't like how someone is promoting themselves, stop watching. Simple as that. Bitching on forums/facebook is just annoying everyone else. When their viewership drops, they'll get the point. If it doesn't, oh well. I personally use adblock, unless I like the content. |
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| thewhitepenny | Mar 7 2015, 12:44 PM Post #24 |
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I use ad block.... I don't follow to many creators these days but the one's that I do, I either sub to them on twitch or will send donations every once in a while. There are only so many red lobster commercials for endless shrimp fest that I can handle. |
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| browland1 | Mar 7 2015, 02:35 PM Post #25 |
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I generally don't use AdBlock on Youtube at all. My logic is that I'm watching someones videos, therefore I'll support them. If I don't like the content creator or have a low opinion of their videos, I odds of me viewing any of their content is next to none, so that issue sorts itself out. I don't have the patience to constantly be enabling/disabling ad block, so that's the approach that works for me. Besides, watching 5 seconds of an advert is not a big deal for me. I can spare that. |
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