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Nintendo Direct 11.12.2015
Topic Started: Nov 12 2015, 07:02 PM (1,194 Views)
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Twilight Princess HD w/ Wolf Link amiibo Mar. 4th
Some new stuff coming to Tri Force Heroes Dec. 2nd
New Splatoon updates coming, like, now
New portal website to search Mario Maker levels Dec.
Animal Crossing: amiibo Festival...
Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash
Xenoblade Chronicles X
eShop stuff: Nintendo Badge Arcade, Pokemon Picross, SteamWorld Heist, FAST Racing NEO, Typoman
Weird Bill Trinen clip leading in to Yo-Kai Watch
Smash Bros./Splatoon Wii U bundle confirmed for NA
Pokken Tournament gameplay w/ Shadow Mewtwo amiibo card
Star Fox Zero: April 22nd
Final Fantasy Explorers Jan. 26th
Fire Emblem Fates
Mega Man Legacy Collection (new challenges from Mega Man amiibo + gold Mega Man amiibo coming) Feb. 23rd
Original Pokemon games coming to eShop with ability to trade locally Feb. 27th
Dragon Quest VII coming 2016
Dragon Quest VIII coming to 3DS 2016
CLOUD STRIFE IN SMASH BROS. (WHAT?!)
Special Smash Bros. broadcast coming December

DISCUSS!
Edited by pokemonzrpg, Nov 12 2015, 07:07 PM.
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AnnoyingNavi
Nov 13 2015, 11:08 PM
I want Nintendo to go third party so badly. Just look at Starfox Zero - having to use gyro to aim is one of the most moronic feature to a video game simply to make it different, not better. If it were on PS4, it wouldn't look like a 2005 360 game. Also, it would use an adequate controller.
Definitely not adequate, what was nintendo thinking!

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Oh.....

Also the Wii U can do better than this, its probably a stylistic choice. 2005 360 game? no. quit being a baby.
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If you told me that Starfox Zero was a cancelled game from 2005-8, I would believe it. Also, that's the Pro Controller, not the GamePad. Starfox uses the gyro to aim. Are you really going to defend that? Lol.

Give it 5 years, and you'll see Nintendo on Playstation. They will be third party.
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Like I said before I am not all that excited about Starfox but I will say that I found the gyro controls in Starfox 64 3D to work just fine.
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AnnoyingNavi
Nov 14 2015, 06:21 PM
If you told me that Starfox Zero was a cancelled game from 2005-8, I would believe it. Also, that's the Pro Controller, not the GamePad. Starfox uses the gyro to aim. Are you really going to defend that? Lol.

Give it 5 years, and you'll see Nintendo on Playstation. They will be third party.
Why do you suck Nintendo's cock with John on VGO but hate on them here? :p
C'mon Starfox is being made by Platinum. It's going to be awesome :]
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AnnoyingNavi
Nov 14 2015, 06:21 PM
If you told me that Starfox Zero was a cancelled game from 2005-8, I would believe it. Also, that's the Pro Controller, not the GamePad. Starfox uses the gyro to aim. Are you really going to defend that? Lol.

Give it 5 years, and you'll see Nintendo on Playstation. They will be third party.
Why do you suck Nintendo's cock with John on VGO but hate on them here? :p
C'mon Starfox is being made by Platinum. It's going to be awesome :]
Platinum Games being the developer should scare the hell out of you. Their track record is atrocious and they're developing 4-5 AAA games at the same time. Something will go VERY wrong.

I both love and hate Nintendo. I point out the love on VGO, and the hate here, I guess. It all depends on the specific issue.
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AnnoyingNavi
Nov 15 2015, 10:13 PM
Platinum Games being the developer should scare the hell out of you. Their track record is atrocious
o_O huh? You didn't like Bayonetta 1 & 2, Vanquish, Madworld, or Metal Gear Rising? I haven't played all of their games but those are some the best action games I've ever played. I really want their Transformers game but I hear it's really short, and the demo for Wonderful 101 didn't do it for me.
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AnnoyingNavi
Nov 15 2015, 10:13 PM
Platinum Games being the developer should scare the hell out of you. Their track record is atrocious
o_O huh? You didn't like Bayonetta 1 & 2, Vanquish, Madworld, or Metal Gear Rising? I haven't played all of their games but those are some the best action games I've ever played. I really want their Transformers game but I hear it's really short, and the demo for Wonderful 101 didn't do it for me.
Madworld is not Ocarina of Time, Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Pokemon, or anything else regarded as the best games.

And just look at their portfolio: MadWorld, Infinite Space, Anarchy Reigns, The Wonderful 101, The Legend of Korra, [I'd argue] Transformers: Devastation.

A terrible track record.

And games they have in development:

Star Fox Zero -- early 360 graphics and gameplay

Scalebound -- horrible frame rate

Nier: Automata -- we know little about it


How can they be expected to develop 3 AAA games at once and expect them all to be great, if any of them? Hell, Naughty Dog realized they couldn't do it after The Last of Us, so no way in hell PG can.
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So their bad games consist of Madworld, Wonderful 101, Infinite Space, and Transformers. Fair enough. Considering Korra and Anarchy Reigns were budget games with a budget price in mind it's not really a fair comparison adding those two regarding their ability to make a good AAA game. Hell, Infinite Space was a DS game that probably didn't have a AAA budget either.

Graphics on Wii U...it's a last gen system. We all knew what we were getting into buying a last gen system in 2012 and it wasn't good graphics, it was that Nintendo experience.

Well they did a great job with Bayonetta 2 and Metal Gear Rising at the same time so I do have faith, yes. Starfox is probably mostly done just getting polished and getting a few tweaks at this point since it's original release date was next week, Scalebound is over a year away with time to improve, and I don't expect Nier until 2017 tbh.
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Nov 14 2015, 06:21 PM
If you told me that Starfox Zero was a cancelled game from 2005-8, I would believe it. Also, that's the Pro Controller, not the GamePad. Starfox uses the gyro to aim. Are you really going to defend that? Lol.

Give it 5 years, and you'll see Nintendo on Playstation. They will be third party.
Mario Kart 8 can use gyro controls, it also gives you the option of using just a joystick. I'm 99% sure that they will let you just use a regular controller or joysticks. If they don't then they will have failed.

I wouldn't shit on the Wii U for this game looking bad. Look at Pikmin 3, that blows away the PS3 and 360. I do agree that the game does look rather bad, but I'm not going to blame the Wii U for that, or really nintendo for that since its not even being developed by them.
Edited by Tr3vor, Nov 16 2015, 12:08 AM.
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Nov 15 2015, 11:06 PM
And just look at their portfolio: MadWorld, Infinite Space, Anarchy Reigns, The Wonderful 101, The Legend of Korra, [I'd argue] Transformers: Devastation.
Wonderful 101 and Infinite Space are nothing less then amazing games. You can go to hell, you can go to hell and die.
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I refuse to be an apologist for bad games. The more they're critiqued, the more likely effort will be put in. That said, even for the Wii U, Star Fox looks dated as hell.
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Glad you can preach to us about games that aren't even out yet. That seems like a really solid basis for an argument.4

I honestly don't care that Star Fox Zero doesn't have the "best grafix evar" because I can still play Star Fox 64 today and have a ton of fun with it. And those graphics look pretty bad these days. You don't have to have the flashiest, most amazing graphics to have a spectacular space shooter that stands the test of time. I'm guessing that, like what Tr3vor said, it's a stylistic choice more than anything, though I'd take it a step further and say it could be to keep a consistent 60 fps running at all times on the Gamepad and the television, since they'll be rendering different parts of the world at the same time. But, I could be wrong about that. Still, the footage they showed during the Direct looked a ton better than what they showed at E3. It looks like they're taking the extra time to give the game a visual boost, and hey, I'm not complaining.

In any case, people overexaggerate about graphics being bad or outdated WAY too much, to the point where it's frankly annoying and childish. You want to see a game that actually looks like it's from 2005 that was on technology not much lower in quality than the Wii U? Check out Deadly Premonition and get back to me. (Though that game is fantasmic.)
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"Glad you can preach to us about games that aren't even out yet. That seems like a really solid basis for an argument."

So, let's say a trailer for a movie comes out, and it looks just awful. I guess we shouldn't take an opinion because, you know, it's not out yet. Hell, look at the Star Wars trailers -- they're awesome! But, you know, I can't have an opinion on them for not being released. #Owned


I honestly don't care that Star Fox Zero doesn't have the "best grafix evar" because I can still play Star Fox 64 today and have a ton of fun with it.

Two things. One: then what's the point of making a new Star Fox then? Two: graphics also have to do with render distance, objects on screen, models, etc, so to undermine their importance is strange and, may I say, barbaric?! That's no different than advocating for going back to the D-Pad for all games because you can still enjoy Super Mario World. #Owned

I'm not complaining.

Yes you are. #Owned

In any case, people overexaggerate about graphics being bad or outdated WAY too much, to the point where it's frankly annoying and childish.

What are you talking about? That argument made sense 5 years ago, but it's 2015. Are you seriously going to argue that Star Fox Zero is lightyears beyond Kameo: Elements of Power on the 360? Such a bogus statement. #Owned
Edited by AnnoyingNavi, Nov 17 2015, 12:27 AM.
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Pretty happy I settled the debate! Wining feels great!
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Criticise Nintendo... no matter how relevant your points are... you're a hater.

I like plat games. Consistantly fun.
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